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Don't argue with me, even Tyler probably the smartest Protoss I know says Protoss players are playing right into it.

Idra said infestors were OP and took it back, MVP probably just thinks its OP because Protoss haven't came up with any thing yet. Though I see games all the time from Korea and I still see 75% bio. Even in this Tournament he did 1-1-1 truely 2 games but only won with it once because of some strange decision making by MC. Game one MC held the 1-1-1 fine but threw the game away later.

It's so odd to see how many people keep saying its a problem even though they end up pretty even at the mid-game. Protoss players have been the quickest to complain about something with out really exploring options for awhile. Zergs do it more and longer, but I think they've had much more reason to complain. This 1-1-1 thing is nothing new and all of a sudden when Protoss think 1 gate expansion is the best build 1-1-1 is broken? Seems kinda illogical.

Thorzain has great insight as well. Look at his offerings compared to someone like Alicia who doesn't even really throw out ideas or examples.
True true. Didn't Alicia totally mess up his games in the last MLG or something because I was hearing it didn't go too well for him but I agree that Thorazin gave some good points

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I read something on the teamliquid forums (I think) about a guy who 6pooled to masters
hmm, I do recall someone 6 pooling to masters or maybe it was diamond

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Combatex does cannon rushes and proxy gates 70% of his games and he is in GM.
He does? Darn, should start watching his stream more often
    
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Combatex does cannon rushes and proxy gates 70% of his games and he is in GM.
CombatEX isn't THAT bad. He's just extremely BM
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Going to start playing this game. I miss RTS
Pay for it or BE BANNED
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CombatEX isn't THAT bad. He's just extremely BM
He certainly isn't that good. I know I could take games off him pretty often, and my TvP isn't even very good atm.
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MC's tweet about 1-1-1:
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On August 22 2011 17:30 Jono7272 wrote:
Anyone able to translate MC's new twitter post on it?

https://twitter.com/#!/oGsMC/status/105555872889053184
"I felt that I did not have command over the game. I acknowledge that my situational awareness and hand speed is slow, and I will work on perfecting them. By the way, the reason why 1/1/1 is so strong against Protoss, is because our AoE units are all tier 3. If only we had banelings..... those marines would be nothing."
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MC's tweet about 1-1-1:

"I felt that I did not have command over the game. I acknowledge that my situational awareness and hand speed is slow, and I will work on perfecting them. By the way, the reason why 1/1/1 is so strong against Protoss, is because our AoE units are all tier 3. If only we had banelings..... those marines would be nothing."
Come on, I get 2 reactor rax up, and no matter how fast I pump marines out of them, stalkers still own me by the 5th min ingame. One website said that mass marine will always beat mass stalker. BS. Because the time I get 10 marines, toss has 7 stalkers which just rape the marines every chance they get. (not to mention zealots)
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Come on, I get 2 reactor rax up, and no matter how fast I pump marines out of them, stalkers still own me by the 5th min ingame. One website said that mass marine will always beat mass stalker. BS. Because the time I get 10 marines, toss has 7 stalkers which just rape the marines every chance they get. (not to mention zealots)
Stimmed marines own stalkers. That and this is 1-1-1 and MC is tweeting, so, it's not a scrub
    
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You should.

Anyone wanna 1v1 that is silver-plat?
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Stimmed marines own stalkers. That and this is 1-1-1 and MC is tweeting, so, it's not a scrub
No, they don't. Stimmed marines mean sacrifice 1 reactor for a tech lab (25% less marines production) OR build an EXTRA rax (sacrifice minerals for 3 marines) + heavy gas, less minerals => less marines.

+the fact that it's too early to have medivacs to cure the stim effect on HP, you get a small, knocked up force, which attacks good bu doesn't live long enough to bring down the stalker's sh** load of HP and shield.

+with an extra rax so early you give up on pretty much any macro

The only thing that saves early, early-to-mid terran from stalker-zealot rush, is blind luck.
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Against pretty much all race I do 3rax expo siege w/ some meds. Its not a mass marine cheese

vP: 2 with tech, 1 with react
vT: "
vZ: 1 with tech, 2 with react

I push at around 60 food and if I have good macro I can push with sieges
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