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The fungal nerf is actually pretty severe from a DPS standpoint

current DPS: 36 / 4 = 9.0
patch DPS: 30 / 4 = 7.5

A DPS of 9.0 kills a 55hp upgraded marine in 6.1 seconds, assuming no healing. DPS of 7.5 kills them in 7.33, and healing becomes far more effective too, making the difference even bigger when medivacs are present. Mass marines are going to survive long enough to do a lot more damage than they do now, especially when they have medivac support.
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Originally Posted by Lucas Lamer View Post
The fungal nerf is actually pretty severe from a DPS standpoint

current DPS: 36 / 4 = 9.0
patch DPS: 30 / 4 = 7.5

A DPS of 9.0 kills a 55hp upgraded marine in 6.1 seconds, assuming no healing. DPS of 7.5 kills them in 7.33, and healing becomes far more effective too, making the difference even bigger when medivacs are present. Mass marines are going to survive long enough to do a lot more damage than they do now, especially when they have medivac support.
This is the first time your post wasn't complete and utter garbage when it comes to balance issues. Rep.
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First, in kr server, a lot of zergs skip making infestors for quicker and more ultras. Second, going pure ghosts against Bl/Infestor is bad idea. Seriously, it's so fragile against bling. Ghosts get out of position and die in groups, u have no anti-bls and u'll be in horrible spot.
I dont think anyone has advocated going "pure" ghost. going pure anything is a genrally a weak way to play, but it does not take many ghosts to make a huge difference vs infester broodlord, a few emps and a few snipes can do the work of an awefull lot of vikings. As for it being fragile I've not had a problem with that personally possibly the people I play against are just bad. I started doing it after seeing how strong it was used by a few pros.

I cant speak to what happens on the KR server but I rarely see in my games people skip infesters and normaly if they do its because they are bad rather than some clever timing, and I've seen only I think july do it at pro level. and that was vs byun who is as you noted known for his ghost play.
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The fungal nerf is actually pretty severe from a DPS standpoint

current DPS: 36 / 4 = 9.0
patch DPS: 30 / 4 = 7.5

A DPS of 9.0 kills a 55hp upgraded marine in 6.1 seconds, assuming no healing. DPS of 7.5 kills them in 7.33, and healing becomes far more effective too, making the difference even bigger when medivacs are present. Mass marines are going to survive long enough to do a lot more damage than they do now, especially when they have medivac support.
Also with Armor (no medivac heal)

0 Armor = 7.33 Seconds
1 Armor = 8.46 Seconds
2 Armor = 10 Seconds
3 Armor = 12.2 Seconds

0 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 10.61 Seconds
1 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 13.23 Seconds
2 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 17.27 Seconds
3 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 22.22 Seconds

+ 1 Medivac is roughly calculated

3+3 marines are going to be amazing.
Wait Marines were always amazing
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This is the first time your post wasn't complete and utter garbage when it comes to balance issues. Rep.
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I love compliments that are really insults. They're my favorite thing.
I mean, its more insulting your old complaining about nothing posts, and complimenting your new approach to actually applying some stats and data to prove some point you are making or agreeing with. I gave you rep because it was a good post man, I guess you can say it was some what insulting to your old complaining yes.
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Also with Armor (no medivac heal)

0 Armor = 7.33 Seconds
1 Armor = 8.46 Seconds
2 Armor = 10 Seconds
3 Armor = 12.2 Seconds

0 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 10.61 Seconds
1 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 13.23 Seconds
2 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 17.27 Seconds
3 Armor + 1 Medivac healing (+3HP / second) = 22.22 Seconds

+ 1 Medivac is roughly calculated

3+3 marines are going to be amazing.
Wait Marines were always amazing


Fungal ignores armor.....the same with storm and any other spell caster spell.
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Fungal ignores armor.....the same with storm and any other spell caster spell.
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