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Infestor’s Neural Parasite can no longer target Massive units. LOL wut. mass thors
If this change goes thru then they might as well just remove zerg from the game altogether. It makes zerg unplayable.
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Are there statistics anywhere that show how many people play each race out of all the races? I know there was a discussion awhile back about it, but I always thought there were just a greater number of Terran players. Its the main race in the campaign, and as someone who never played BW, I instantly used Terran in multiplayer because it was the only race I knew how to play. I would imagine this is a fairly common situation. I hate playing against Z and when HoTS comes out, I can only imagine there will be a lot more Z on the ladder.
There are about equal amount of Terrans and protoss, while zerg's like 25-30%. Doesn't account to the racial imbalance in the competitive scene, since 90%+pros are bw/wc3 players and they'd pick their familiar race. And when HotS comes out, nothing will change because most will stick to their familiar race.

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It already was really good. I think the thought process behind it may be: Ultras are much faster. Ultras rape mech in lots of situations, and they also rape most Toss if the build time is decreased.
BLs are far better than ultras against mech because Thors are rly bad against bls and mech don't have the mobility to go for a base trade. I personally don't think ultras would "rape" protoss just because they got a 15 second time buff. Thors take 60, Colossus take 75. Ultras should definitely take less cause it's the worst unit out of the three.

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If this change goes thru then they might as well just remove Neural Parasite from the game altogether. It makes Neural Parasite unplayable.
Fix'd Zerg's still fine, but blizzard did make NP completely useless O_O
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It's a pretty dumb change at this point. I don't like it. and yeah I hate BL's with a passion.
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Fix'd Zerg's still fine, but blizzard did make NP completely useless O_O
Are you serious? Colossus/Archon deathball goes back to being an a-move autowin. Mothership is unkillable now. Thors become vastly stronger. Even battlecruisers will be viable now. It's the end of any chance zerg has to win a long macro game with max armies clashing. It's the end of zerg as a competitive option for pro players. It's pretty much the end of zerg.
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Are you serious? Colossus/Archon deathball goes back to being an a-move autowin. Mothership is unkillable now. Thors become vastly stronger. Even battlecruisers will be viable now. It's the end of any chance zerg has to win a long macro game with max armies clashing. It's the end of zerg as a competitive option for pro players. It's pretty much the end of zerg.
Hehe well I'm a bit bias. My strength is mid-game with Mutablingling for tvz, and Lingbling corrupter for pvz.

But yeah, blizzard is totally screwed up in their anus O_o The whole point of NP is to "NP enemy's massive units like Colossus" like it says on the ability's description -_-
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If this change goes thru then they might as well just remove zerg from the game altogether. It makes zerg unplayable.
It would just make all of the spell casters a lot more balanced. Zerg is the only race where its viable to rush to your spell caster in every matchup. Infestors are just too strong right now, they're easily the strongest spell caster in the game. They're also supposed to be a support unit, not a core army unit that's amazing against almost every unit.
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It would just make all of the spell casters a lot more balanced. Zerg is the only race where its viable to rush to your spell caster in every matchup. Infestors are just too strong right now, they're easily the strongest spell caster in the game. They're also supposed to be a support unit, not a core army unit that's amazing against almost every unit.
I think this is a good change for Z as infestors were way too powerful. I may be slightly biased as a T, but that BL, infestor, bling deathball always rolled me. I think I'd rather have a fungal nerf though, but this change was definitely used to fix ZvP. I worry that this nerf will spur more outrage for a ghost nerf though .
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It would just make all of the spell casters a lot more balanced. Zerg is the only race where its viable to rush to your spell caster in every matchup. Infestors are just too strong right now, they're easily the strongest spell caster in the game. They're also supposed to be a support unit, not a core army unit that's amazing against almost every unit.
Why can't infestors be a core unit? They're the only zerg unit isn't highly situational in usefulness, which means they should be a core unit. If zerg had other versatile late/mid units I could see your point, but that is not the case. Without infestors you can't build anything resembling a versatile zerg army in the late game. They're a core unit, like it or not.
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I would make NP into still works on massive, but does not work on air units. This would make BC/Carrier/Mothership more viable. It was complete and utter BS that you could NP a mothership.
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Yeah, I don't understand the change either. But I'm not going to complain, I can colossus again.
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