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Now that I am playing SCII I am just getting CRUSHED at my old MMR. Feels like I'm a level below these guys.
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Originally Posted by roberT_ View Post
I've been getting siege when I do this 1-1-1 toss push so far. I will admit I'm still very new to the strategy though, but I think there is at least ONE advantage to getting siege.

When toss has a ramp that can be easily force fielded and is playing defensive (perhaps cause he saw the push coming), I use my tanks with banshee sight to shell the crap out of him while he sits near his ramp.

I think there are a number of viable 1-1-1 combinations to be honest. Just more than one right answer.

The main risk for going tanks is that it makes you vulnerable to getting attacked while you are moving out.

I normally don't get banshee cloak when I do this also, so I guess if I cut tanks I should get the +1 and combat shields =). I'll be trying both ways I think.


1 1 1 takes no skill and is dumb op....
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Getting siege tech going 1/1/1 is useless.....I've tested this out and have came to that conclusion after watching the replays where I lost. Ever since I stopped getting siege and invested that gas into a raven before I push I have yet to lose a TvP.....

The reason why siege is useless is that Toss units are very beefy and tanks out of siege mode do more DPS vs sieged tanks. The splash damage dealt to toss is negligible and not worth the 100 gas and lower dps.

Not to mention that going into siege mode with your tanks makes you very vulnerable to the toss focus firing your tanks/kiting making them completely useless.

tell that to every gsl player who get siege and also how siege does well vs stalkers and you are SUPPOSED to target the stalkers so the banshees dont die and u just auto win
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Anyone want to team up add me RoRO #443
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Originally Posted by eosgreen View Post
tell that to every gsl player who get siege and also how siege does well vs stalkers and you are SUPPOSED to target the stalkers so the banshees dont die and u just auto win
A good Toss player will have zealots/immortals/and stalkers all focus firing your tanks, they will also kite you all of the way to their base and try to force an engagement before you hit their base. I actually got the idea of not getting siege from the top NA terran streams.

It's mainly personal preference though because if you get siege and cloak you wont be able to get out a raven in time for a 10-12 minute push which can disable their stalkers and allow you to snipe obs so that your cloak banshees can focus fire immortals/collosus without worrying about stalkers being able to see them. So your banshees wont die if you have a raven, get out a pdd and focus fire the obs.
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A good Toss player will have zealots/immortals/and stalkers all focus firing your tanks, they will also kite you all of the way to their base and try to force an engagement before you hit their base. I actually got the idea of not getting siege from the top NA terran streams.

It's mainly personal preference though because if you get siege and cloak you wont be able to get out a raven in time for a 10-12 minute push which can disable their stalkers and allow you to snipe obs so that your cloak banshees can focus fire immortals/collosus without worrying about stalkers being able to see them. So your banshees wont die if you have a raven, get out a pdd and focus fire the obs.
Puma's 1/1/1 hits before 10 minutes with siege, cloak and a raven.
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Hey there

I've had the starter edition of SC II for ages but only just started playing after Blizzcon 2011.
Watching the tournament on the live stream persuaded me to start playing

After winning 1 of about 6 custom 2 vs 2 games and letting many team mates down, I've come to two conclusions:
1. I suck.
2. Star jeweled is a brilliant idea.

Then I thought:
'I'm pretty sure I've seen a strategy thread on OCN'
And there we have it, 1700 pages of SC II intelligence

Hope to pick up a few tips from the thread and Day9, love his commentary on the live streams

Anyway, this is my way of saying hi.

Although I should probably get the full game first.

Cheers.
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Hey there

I've had the starter edition of SC II for ages but only just started playing after Blizzcon 2011.
Watching the tournament on the live stream persuaded me to start playing

After winning 1 of about 6 custom 2 vs 2 games and letting many team mates down, I've come to two conclusions:
1. I suck.
2. Star jeweled is a brilliant idea.

Then I thought:
'I'm pretty sure I've seen a strategy thread on OCN'
And there we have it, 1700 pages of SC II intelligence

Hope to pick up a few tips from the thread and Day9, love his commentary on the live streams

Anyway, this is my way of saying hi.

Although I should probably get the full game first.

Cheers.
Hi, great to have another noob here! Certainly add me ingame, my SC2 name is the same as my forum nick. We'll share some low-lever terran strategy I can brag with about 50-50% win-loss in custom games
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Puma's 1/1/1 hits before 10 minutes with siege, cloak and a raven.
Yo, do you got a replay of this bro? Want to study it a tad.
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Here is a game I played today PvT

I 15 Nexus, the terran 2 raxed and bunkered my expo and took it out

I chrono'd out units from my 3 gates (using 2 nexus) I got enough to hold off the aggression. Then the last part of the video is my push into the Terran's third (when I had a 4th going up)

He did a drop and took out my robo, however I already had my 4 colossus and thats all I make. He tried to nuke me but I had 2 obs, one over my army and one over his. I know I killed my own obs with my storms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChefA...ature=youtu.be
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