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You do realize Tester is doing this to Koreans who would eat you for breakfast right? It's a good strat, even in the minor leagues. It's not perfect, but it can be effective. Plus people use their overlords for scouting a number of positions, not just their ramp.
Not it's not a good strat. This shouldn't work on any Z player silver or better. 1st overlord is to slow to get any good recon on your enemy so park him at your ramp. And your drone should scout at 9 and see the enemy probe coming in. It's unfathomable to me that this works on any competent Z player.
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Not it's not a good strat. This shouldn't work on any Z player silver or better. 1st overlord is to slow to get any good recon on your enemy so park him at your ramp. And your drone should scout at 9 and see the enemy probe coming in. It's unfathomable to me that this works on any competent Z player.
If you look at high level replays every zerg sends his first overlord to the opponent's base to scout.
Yes a drone scouts at 9, but in the strat he described, you send your probe after your first pylon which is 9, which doesn't look suspicious at all.

It starts getting suspicious when the other player doesn't see your probe come into his base and when he sees you building a forge. This is at around 12-13 food, most zergs haven't even put down their spawning pool. Shortly after, you put down 2 pylons, blocking the ramp before any zerglings are anywhere near ready.

I've seen it done.
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If you look at high level replays every zerg sends his first overlord to the opponent's base to scout.
Yes a drone scouts at 9, but in the strat he described, you send your probe after your first pylon which is 9, which doesn't look suspicious at all.

It starts getting suspicious when the other player doesn't see your probe come into his base and when he sees you building a forge. This is at around 12-13 food, most zergs haven't even put down their spawning pool. Shortly after, you put down 2 pylons, blocking the ramp before any zerglings are anywhere near ready.

I've seen it done.
Even if you do send your first OL to the enemy base (which I stopped doing a long time ago) your second OL comes out at 10. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying that the Z player was incompetent
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Even if you do send your first OL to the enemy base (which I stopped doing a long time ago) your second OL comes out at 10. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying that the Z player was incompetent
I'm not sure your second overlord has the time to make it to the ramp in time. In any case, it doesn't matter because at 12-13 food a zerg player hasn't even started his spawning pool yet.
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I'm not sure your second overlord has the time to make it to the ramp in time. In any case, it doesn't matter because at 12-13 food a zerg player hasn't even started his spawning pool yet.
Okay. Let's pretend for the sake of argument that the Z player falls for this. The longest this will last is second tier when the Z player gets the nydus network.At most this just extends the game 10 minutes or so.
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Okay. Let's pretend for the sake of argument that the Z player falls for this. The longest this will last is second tier when the Z player gets the nydus network.At most this just extends the game 10 minutes or so.
Protoss won't sit around doing nothing while the zerg techs. He didn't cut probes, so his economy is normal.
Edited by thiru - 9/19/10 at 3:56am
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Just been playing my way through the campaign and was in the process of beating "the Great Train Robbery" this morning. Had the game crash halfway through and I could still hear game music playing. No biggie I thought, as I had just got an autosave before the crash. The game then reported a corrupt install and launched a Repairer. Been through this process several times now and it keeps crashing Anyone else had a similar problem that they managed to fix ? Don't really want to have to re-install from scratch but will do if I have to.
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yea i had the repair/crash/repeat issue a couple weeks ago. Reinstall buddy. Reinstall.
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and are you forgetting I play Zerg as well? It's incredibly easy to micro Z... what are you even referring to? Nothing hard about it. I even burrow individual roaches for healing in battle, and have been for ages.
Well, that's easy. Good players micro individual broodlings.

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Over talking about terrans op haha. I'm just glad they are increasing the build time on the reapers for that stupid BS cheese proxy reaper bunker crap. I started using a different strategy for terran now, and I haven't lost since.
So now you'll have proxy rax marauder bunker cheese, which will work even better due to increased zealot build time. What's your PvT strat?
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His is certainly much easier to get #1 than mine is. Well I haven't checked Cory's score but I'm guessing 1100~1200? He his higher than me at the moment but in my division he wouldn't even be top 30 with 1200 points.



Just tier list.



Just what the top players are saying. If you watch Artosis and Tasteless cast some of the games they mention this, as well as a lot of recent interviews with a lot of top koreans. Terran has been pretty successful in the tournament, but Protoss was far more successful in qualifying rounds. We'll have to see how it pans out, could be interesting.




Get first in my division and I'll be impressed.

I wish I was in your division I would look better with my SC2 card .


*Edit* Cory I only see you at 12th @ 1056 points?

And cory, what is this PvT strat you have? Let's test it out on me because I would like to see it / learn it.
I would like to test it out against you as well. As for 1st place I was refering to my 2v2 randoms (~1200) It's in my sig. 2s random is harder than you think, many times the matching making gives me terrible players. This guy doesn't seem to want to let me have 1st place , he has over 100 bonus pool and as soon as I passed him he played a couple lol. Only 2 points back tho.

My 1v1 league isn't the best, but it certainly isn't the worst. I've seen diamond leagues where 900 gets you first haha. Check out Drewbie's league. To make the top 10 you need over 1500.
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