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Diamond S1, don't play anymore but could get back into it if I had some practice partners... Cmon OCN!
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Yeah the overclock.net channel is always empty
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Yeah the overclock.net channel is always empty
Sometimes there is around 4 or 5 people on, but no one says anything... If someone came into the channel and told me I had to play team games, I would listen.
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Actually, imo, team games are significantly more complex than 1v1... And maybe that's why they aren't as popular. There are so many variables and intricacies involved in each opening build in each matchup for 1v1, and in a 2v2 they go up exponentially.

Maybe this is why every masters+ 2v2 I've seen involved massive early pressure/cheese from both sides - if you pressure, you keep the other team from doing one of a billion different things that would be nearly impossible to perfectly prepare for.
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I think every 2v2 is early rush/cheese because it's incredibly easy to overpower someone 2v1 and once you've taken out one person, the game is pretty much won. It's why I don't play 2v2's much, and when I do, I play Terran (best early game on both offense and defense).
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a sentrie can ff the ramp in 2v2 and let you 2v1 one guy's army (if they don't hae the army combined in the middle
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Actually, imo, team games are significantly more complex than 1v1... And maybe that's why they aren't as popular. There are so many variables and intricacies involved in each opening build in each matchup for 1v1, and in a 2v2 they go up exponentially.

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I believe that team games are more popular than 1v1s, because they are less competitive. They are not complex though as the game is not balanced around team games. High level 2v2'ers cheese in these games not to avoid complexity, which would rather allow them to get additional edge over weaker opponents, but because these kinds of strategies are the most effective. The fact that there are gold 1v1 players in master 2v2+ leagues only proves the point.
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worst... losing streak... ever... in team games today.

I'm really confused though, almost all my teammates seem to be doing a fast 3 base with little to no units till then... is this the new day9 or did some pro do something awesome like this recently? or maybe I just kept getting matched with the same peeps...
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I believe that team games are more popular than 1v1s, because they are less competitive. They are not complex though as the game is not balanced around team games. High level 2v2'ers cheese in these games not to avoid complexity, which would rather allow them to get additional edge over weaker opponents, but because these kinds of strategies are the most effective. The fact that there are gold 1v1 players in master 2v2+ leagues only proves the point.
I meant team games aren't as popular in the serious/competitive community. There aren't really leagues or tournaments based around them. I wouldn't be surprised if more people played team games than 1v1 ladder though.

Cheese in general is just really really strong. One guy made it to GM just 6pooling every game in every matchup. It's a lot easier to play 1 build over and over and over and get really good at it than it is to defend against it.

But you could be right, I dunno. I wouldn't be surprised if, due to the ease with which you could quickly kill off 1 player in a 2v1 situation, both teams are basically forced to get a lot of units asap or just die a lot of the time.
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