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Only heard of lent yesterday, makes me laugh though, especially when people give up something like soda or chocolate.
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I think he is shocked because all his friends/family know about it so he expects the entire world/internet users to know it?
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Originally Posted by ntherblast View Post

I think he is shocked because all his friends/family know about it so he expects the entire world/internet users to know it?

Considering there are 2.1 billion Christians worldwide, including ~78% of both the US and Canada (thanks Wikipedia), it's pretty reasonable to think that people would know what Lent is.

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Originally Posted by Fortunex View Post

Only heard of lent yesterday, makes me laugh though, especially when people give up something like soda or chocolate.

I'm not really religious myself, but let's at least be considerate.
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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

Anyone care to let me know what you do vs Terrans who turtle into thors + rines + ghosts ?

I've not watched the replay as im at work, but what i do vs a turtle terran, is to macro like crazy keep expanding and overbuilding production facilities. Keep him contained then when he does push out trade armies, you may well loose your first one but you can get right back up to 200 food again with the crazy numbers of gates you should have built and you can far more afford to loose your army than he can, after that its just a matter of time.

Also high templar storms and sniping with feedback.
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I'm not really religious myself, but let's at least be considerate.

Why? Religion isn't exempt from criticism.
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Why? Religion isn't exempt from criticism.

firstly discussion of religion is not allowed on ocn so i'd drop it.

secondly.

Just becuase you dont understand something doesn't make it stupid, as long as what someone is doing doesn't infringe on or damage your life in any significant way then really being a French shower about it is completely unnecessary. You may not understand it but to out right say something you dont understand is stupid is plain rude.

I'm not religious but i can respect other peoples beliefs same as im not Gay or black/jewish/asian/hispanic but I still believe that all people regardless of age sex religion etc have the same right to be treated with respect.
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Because this a not a religious thread. I would however like to state that I had also never heard of "Lent".
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I just played a PvZ vs a gold zerg and here is the replay of my build. I don't really pay attention I just have a flow with my FFE in PvZ The Shattered Temple (70) PvZ gold.zip 38k .zip file

Notice how high your chrono-boost gets. Also one rule I have learned about FFE is that you get both your gasses once you put down your gateway.

I just tried the same building order as that you had but without cutting any probes and gasses before cannon. It seems very, very economical, but I have zero units for very long. Could put down more cannons easily though.

Nexus first Constant probies.zip 7k .zip file
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Because this a not a religious thread. I would however like to state that I had also never heard of "Lent".
Notice how high your chrono-boost gets. Also one rule I have learned about FFE is that you get both your gasses once you put down your gateway.
I just tried the same building order as that you had but without cutting any probes and gasses before cannon. It seems very, very economical, but I have zero units for very long. Could put down more cannons easily though.
Nexus first Constant probies.zip 7k .zip file

I'm going to watch the replay now, but from the way it sounds with your build if he does a 2 base ling/roach all in you'd not be able to stop it. And yeah 2 gasses are generally better but the chrono you got to save.

I seem to do Nexus before forge on most big maps, I just see how it feels when i'm scouting.

Here is a Nexus first ffe that I held off a 2 base roach/ling early push, he was gold rank 12
Shakuras Plateau (76).zip 43k .zip file


Watched the replay:

Why did you type your build ....... that was a waste of time

The constant probes delayed your expo by about 40 seconds, which I could've caught up in probes but was getting my infrastructure down
You should've taken his Xel'Naga to see his units sooner

You're lucky your opponent was bad, 2 pylons before expo or forge? I drop a 15 nexus and a 16 or 17 forge and you should've put your gate beside your forge to make the lings run around the forge+gate to give the canon time to hit them more.

Your build/probe without planning to play:

13 @ 2 min
18 @ 3 min only 2 pylons
3:21 Nexus goes down 3:32 forge
21 @ 4 min
25 @ 5
31 @ 6

My build/probe winning the game:
12 @ 2 min
2:43 Nexus 2:58 Forge
15 @ 3 min
18 @ 4 min
23 @ 5 min
28 @ 6 min + 3 gates
Edited by CravinR1 - 2/24/12 at 4:44am
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Whoops meant to edit but ok:

I just did a benchmark comparison between our games. (the first one you posted.)

My nexus starts a good 35 seconds later but at that time I have the same amount of probes as that you had at the 5 minute mark.
My forge 20 seconds later
Gate 15 seconds later
Cannon 25 seconds later
Double gas 10 seconds earlier (than your single gas.)
Cyber 15 seconds later.

At the 5 minute mark I have 25 probes against your 19. I am mining double gas and we both have 1 cannon. (You have a second on the way though.)

You are of course a lot safer but a roach timing is deadly for both of us.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post

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Originally Posted by RlndVt View Post

Because this a not a religious thread. I would however like to state that I had also never heard of "Lent".
Notice how high your chrono-boost gets. Also one rule I have learned about FFE is that you get both your gasses once you put down your gateway.
I just tried the same building order as that you had but without cutting any probes and gasses before cannon. It seems very, very economical, but I have zero units for very long. Could put down more cannons easily though.
Nexus first Constant probies.zip 7k .zip file

I'm going to watch the replay now, but from the way it sounds with your build if he does a 2 base ling/roach all in you'd not be able to stop it. And yeah 2 gasses are generally better but the chrono you got to save.

I seem to do Nexus before forge on most big maps, I just see how it feels when i'm scouting.

Here is a Nexus first ffe that I held off a 2 base roach/ling early push, he was gold rank 12
Shakuras Plateau (76).zip 43k .zip file


Watched the replay:

Why did you type your build ....... that was a waste of time

The constant probes delayed your expo by about 40 seconds, which I could've caught up in probes but was getting my infrastructure down
You should've taken his Xel'Naga to see his units sooner

You're lucky your opponent was bad, 2 pylons before expo or forge? I drop a 15 nexus and a 16 or 17 forge and you should've put your gate beside your forge to make the lings run around the forge+gate to give the canon time to hit them more.

Your build/probe without planning to play:

13 @ 2 min
18 @ 3 min only 2 pylons
3:21 Nexus goes down 3:32 forge
21 @ 4 min
25 @ 5
31 @ 6

My build/probe winning the game:
12 @ 2 min
2:43 Nexus 2:58 Forge
15 @ 3 min
18 @ 4 min
23 @ 5 min
28 @ 6 min + 3 gates

I wasn't luck, it was a custom game against very easy AI xD

Watching the replay now.
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