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APM 20-50 you starting in bronze ?

What race you play ?
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I'm playing Protoss because a buddy of mine over here is trying Terran. He is absolutely terrible, so I'm trying to help him as well. I got into Silver, but I was loosing quite a bit until I spent the last couple days doing a ton of reading and getting my build orders figured out. Now I am winning a lot in silver, beat a few gold players as well. So I think I'm working my way up now. I wish I could post a replay so you could check it out, but I'm not sure our internet here will let me upload it anywhere.
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Try my 1 gate FE in PvT

Here is me holding a 3 rax with it vs a guy I played 2v2 with a silver friend and he was saying I was terrible and said he was plat 1v1, so we played 1v1 and I beat him and he asked for a rematch and this is the rematch.

Metalopolis (2) PvT custom ladder mouth.zip 81k .zip file
Edited by CravinR1 - 2/28/12 at 11:56pm
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I'll see if I can download it when I get off work tonight. 12 hour work days suck
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I edited my post to include both the matches.

The key to the 1 gate fe is to get a zealot, stalker, sentry in that order, drop your Nexus around 24-26 supply and then immediately take second gas and add 3 more gates. Get the Robo bay before 6:15 and send a obs to the base to see what they're doing. Then drop a robo bay

I usually get 3 sentries, and 1 stalker then about 7 or 8 zealots. If they push before my second base has kicked in you ff behind the rauders/rines and let the zealots eat them up


After the robo bay the expo should be saturated pretty well and I add 4 more gates, then asap I drop a twilight and double forge and get charge and 1-1 chronoed
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Sounds similar to mine but I get only 1 zealot, 1 sentry, and then stalkers and expand later than you are suggesting.


Could you give me a build my buddy can use? He's playing terran, were doing 2v2 in bronze league with me being Protoss. I've basically been beating our opponents by myself, he's not much help until half way through the match he has 2000+ minerals he gives me and I go like 10 gate lol
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I like to go zealot heavy with 3 sentries early cause a 2-3 rax with rauders the zealots can take alot more damage and deal alot more damage (provided you ff behind them so they don't stutter step)




As far as 2v2 with PT:

Me and my friend are PT and we've been doing a 9-10 min 4-6 colo with rines push that placed us Diamond.


I get 30 probes asap and 2 robo bays, he gets 3 rax with 2 reacotors and a tech lab and researched combat shields then gas dumps the rest to me. I start range and chrno it after my first 2 colo start. He gets a bunker or 2 to hold off against early attacks

He ONLY makes rines to deal with air, like Mutas/banshees. Colo's rape ground. We generally wait for 6 colo's unless we get scouted then we go on four. Terran gas dumps to you after add on and combat shields is started. Also after 6 colo you move to attack while expoing behind it.

My and my brothers (which I use now) accounts are:

Cravin
ChadStrife
KingIson

SC2 PT 2v2 Diamond.zip 94k .zip file
Edited by CravinR1 - 2/29/12 at 6:44am
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Sounds similar to mine but I get only 1 zealot, 1 sentry, and then stalkers and expand later than you are suggesting.
Could you give me a build my buddy can use? He's playing terran, were doing 2v2 in bronze league with me being Protoss. I've basically been beating our opponents by myself, he's not much help until half way through the match he has 2000+ minerals he gives me and I go like 10 gate lol

Hey man,

me and my buddy have been hovering around top 100 2v2 in NA. We're TZ, but I might have some insight.

We did a bit of TP when we played random, and we found that Reactor barracks, factory siege tank and another rax for the terran and 3gate voidray for the protoss KILLED. You push with 3 tanks and 3 voids and make bunkers and ****, it's the bomb. Otherwise you may want to try 4gate/3 barracks, pretty good. Your builds will change depending on the composition, of course.

Against Zerg Zerg, go marauder hellion + defensive 4gate. This is because ZZ have pretty sick allins with like double roach rushes and stuff, so you need early units.
Against TZ, it's pretty much autoloss unless you push for a macro game or cheese them with 2rax+proxygates or something.
Against TT, push for a longer game. A Terran + Protoss maxed army > Terran + Terran max army. Make collosus and stuff while your partner can go mech or marauders
Against PP, this is pretty easy. Have your partner go for early emp since it works on both of them and crush them. Or just go MMM + collosus
Against PZ hmm. You could pressure the zerg with hellion/4gate or marauder hellion.. hard to say.
Against your mirror, do the 3gate void + tank
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Hi everyone! I'm a protoss gold and I keep losing to gold/plat terrans. If you guys don't mind, can I see some replays on what I should do? It's really frustrating that I haven't lost to P or Z in a long time, but I lose to Terran almost every single time (they have to mess up pretty bad for me to win). I think I just get psyched out whenever I know it's terran...

I usually do 3 gate + robo to start, and I can defend pretty against almost every early push (FF op? tongue.gif). It's when I start pushing out to get my 3rd base that things start going down hill. My biggest weakness is drops. When they drop on my main/natural, I'm not sure how to react. Should I send my whole army back? Should I warp in units to defend but counter at the same time? Should I have built more cannons (I feel like cannons are a waste)?

I know a lot of it is my own fault. I used to go colossus a lot, only to get murdered by vikings, but I'm now trying to learn HTs and I REALLY suck with them (so if I could see some of those replays, that might help a lot too). I've also been working on my FF, playing FF/Blink micro custom maps. It helps against zerg (which I don't really have problems with), but doesn't really teach me anything for PvT.
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Hi everyone! I'm a protoss gold and I keep losing to gold/plat terrans. If you guys don't mind, can I see some replays on what I should do? It's really frustrating that I haven't lost to P or Z in a long time, but I lose to Terran almost every single time (they have to mess up pretty bad for me to win). I think I just get psyched out whenever I know it's terran...
I usually do 3 gate + robo to start, and I can defend pretty against almost every early push (FF op? tongue.gif). It's when I start pushing out to get my 3rd base that things start going down hill. My biggest weakness is drops. When they drop on my main/natural, I'm not sure how to react. Should I send my whole army back? Should I warp in units to defend but counter at the same time? Should I have built more cannons (I feel like cannons are a waste)?
I know a lot of it is my own fault. I used to go colossus a lot, only to get murdered by vikings, but I'm now trying to learn HTs and I REALLY suck with them (so if I could see some of those replays, that might help a lot too). I've also been working on my FF, playing FF/Blink micro custom maps. It helps against zerg (which I don't really have problems with), but doesn't really teach me anything for PvT.

Add me if you want a platinum terran practice partner: roberT.759
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