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Personally Stargate play, namely lots of phoenix harass has always messed me up in ZvP early on Z has very weak anti air and you can with a few phoenixes and a void-ray put a serious dent in an econ.

I find that the zerg is fast to make queens/spores which totally neutralize air play
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how long are you sticking with it? its more a harass and to force his tech early, if you can pick off 1 or 2 queens delay his 3rd and get a drone or 2 then a few phoenixes and voids are well worth it, after that you just use them to clear out overlords and deny scouting. I'm not suggesting all out star protoss just early harass, leading to void support for your ground army.
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Gotta love them 2v2 nothing better than an ally who asks what build you are going at the start. I don't understand how someone can have a build set in stone in this dynamic game.

I'm one of those people

usually you know half the build you want to go after seeing the match up, by asking the question, the answer I seek is ultimately a decision of rush or not rush
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Does everyone here still only play Standard Maps? I got bored of that long time ago. Custom Maps FTW.

i was obsessed with custom maps in War3

mainly dota, then all kinds of TDs (especially skibi TD, oh man those mini-games....i miss them), and sometimes i play random crap

without the blizzard built-in item slot UI, somethings in custom maps just dont look as good, a major one being items in Sotis or whatever its called, the dota in SC2 i'm sure you guys know that, just dont feel right

war3 dota >> SC2 dota

The TDs are good though, i played a few of those, but sc2 just have a lot less ppl playing custom maps compared to war3
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how long are you sticking with it? its more a harass and to force his tech early, if you can pick off 1 or 2 queens delay his 3rd and get a drone or 2 then a few phoenixes and voids are well worth it, after that you just use them to clear out overlords and deny scouting. I'm not suggesting all out star protoss just early harass, leading to void support for your ground army.

I find zealot harass early to snipe the third is my best bet, 6 gate +1 into colossus

Here is a gold zerg I just played

Korhal Compound LE (9) PvZ gold.zip 43k .zip file
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Send +1 zealots to third and harass main/natural with phoenixes is my style biggrin.gif

Alas I concentrate to much on my harass that I basically don't macro :-(
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Send +1 zealots to third and harass main/natural with phoenixes is my style biggrin.gif
Alas I concentrate to much on my harass that I basically don't macro :-(

I don't generally go stargate for harassment, seems they get spores and hydras too fast to make it worthwhile when I could get a zealot/stalker/sentry army like the game I posted
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I find zealot harass early to snipe the third is my best bet, 6 gate +1 into colossus
Here is a gold zerg I just played
Korhal Compound LE (9) PvZ gold.zip 43k .zip file

It's a stylistic choice but people especially in the lower leagues get too caught up in "big" plays crushing his 3rd or whatever but those plays are costly, having a few phoenixes and a void delay his 3rd and force hydra's out and then just using them to control the map and route out overlords is a big return on a small investment. Even if you do not take a queen or kill anything other than his ovies you can still easily make a good return on your investment. Bare in mind that every spore he builds is a worker killed for your totals too. Its not a game breaking killing move its harassment it just gets you a little further ahead and opens up your options later in the game while limiting his options.


End of the day each game and player is different but i found that early stargate play was very effective on both sides of the matchup, that said im barely playing at all these days things may have changed allot from 3-4months ago when i was low-mid diamond as random.

Also i guess that most gold level players dont have good overlord scouting spread and if they did they wouldn't know what to do with it so your damage and what you are denying him is less at lower levels of play.
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Cravin requested an example. This can get refined a thousand times over but in the end I still roflstomped him.
Zealots to third Phoenix harrass.zip 39k .zip file

I don't know if it was wise to send my zealots from the third in to the natural where he had spines and lings but I wanted to keep up the pressure.
Edited by RlndVt - 3/2/12 at 4:35am
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Well after a night of 7wins no losses, I went last night 3 wins 2 losses, but one of my losses was in a 3v3 where my buddy dropped out. So I'm not doing as good as I did the other night. I think honestly I just need caught up on sleep. I'm dead tired over here lol
My 2v2 partner and I are going to try that strat Cravin, TP Coloss and rines. It might have to wait until tomorrow, because I may just get off work here and go to sleep.

Even our opponents love the strat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hxq4cp87l4&feature=youtu.be
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