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I was playing on hard, but got stuck on a level where the fire forces you to keep moving. Now that I am getting better, I should try it again and see if I can beat it now.

definitely, but be sure to adjust the speed back to league speed, which was "faster" instead of the default "fast" for hard mode.

I just beat brutle missions like a month ago, after getting stuck time after time, the whole brutle campaign lasted like at least half a year for me (there were times that I got stuck and stopped playing, not like I tried these missions everyday and still took half a year, that would be pretty sad tongue.gif )

beating the campaign gives me a satisfying feeling in a way, though the last mission got me watching a youtube video like 20 times before I finally played right to win, so I kind of half-cheated there. However I dont think I would stand a chance without watching that vid, it's only after I searched these videos did I realize that I picked all the wrong upgrades.



@dr216 : hmm.....I don't know.....

I play terran, and I'm by no means a turtle player, as I sometimes even take big risks and pure marine fast expand etc, but I do macro A WHOLE GODDAMMM LOT better than I do micro, I wonder if that's one of those habits.

But then again, the campaign is what? 25 missions? Come on, after another 25 league games he will surely grow out of it biggrin.gif
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Is it bad i started out in gold when plat was the highest in beta? lol
MAN I JUST NEED TO PLAY AND PRACTICE> GM COULD BE MINE>

It's changed. I was plat in beta, I'm silver now but I think I'm on my way up to gold. I'm considerably better than when I did my placement matches.
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I think I'm getting worse at this game somehow. I've got my builds more refined, better understanding of matchups etc. yet I just seem to lose more to some random stuff. I had around 65% w/l ratio in Diamond last season and was probably on my way to promotion, now I'm barely at 50 and I don't even play masters as often as I used to. I'm starting to think it's not possible to play this game casually and be any good at it. frown.gif
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Come on, after another 25 league games he will surely grow out of it biggrin.gif


Much much easier to start with good habits than break bad ones tongue.gif
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I found for myself that beating the camapign gives you a very basic understanding of mechanics. Then playing 2v2 helped me to see other builds.

Watching videos of analysis and tips is the best way to get out of bronze.

However for me going from Silver 1v1 to Plat 1v1 was basically learning builds and timings and above all practice

I had to play 30 or 40 games to go from silver to Gold. Probably that many again to get into plat.
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Watching videos of analysis and tips is the best way to get out of bronze.

this. day[9] is a top example for someone of lower levels to watch and learn.
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There's a decent beginner guide on reddit that I've linked to friends in the past:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lf73b/my_beginners_guide_to_improving_at_starcraft_2/

Reading tips and watching streams is all well and good, but in the end the best way to get better at SC2 is to play SC2. Play some games against the AI (or better yet, some custom games with a friend), play a few team games (you can queue alone or with friends), and then jump right into 1v1. You're going to lose the majority of your first 15-20 games - the first time you get cannon rushed, the first time someone proxies (builds stuff inside or near your base), the first time you face banshees or DTs, etc. Accept this and embrace it.

Every loss is a learning experience; watch your replays, figure out what he did, and figure out how you can improve your build to stay one step ahead of him. Pick 1-2 builds per matchup (Liquidpedia or TL strategy forum) and practice the hell out of them. Constantly build workers and depots/pylons/overlords. Keep your minerals below 1000. With a couple of strategies and decent macro you'll be Platinum or higher in no time.
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Ultimately playing the game is where you improve. When I was silver and just started playing games I improved to gold fairly fast. My friend has trouble getting out of silver so he 1v1 my plat terran friend while I obs'd

The entire game I was like "probes, chrono probes"

Seems most beginners don't know when to expo and cut probes/workers too much
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I think I'm getting worse at this game somehow. I've got my builds more refined, better understanding of matchups etc. yet I just seem to lose more to some random stuff. I had around 65% w/l ratio in Diamond last season and was probably on my way to promotion, now I'm barely at 50 and I don't even play masters as often as I used to. I'm starting to think it's not possible to play this game casually and be any good at it. frown.gif

This is a definate yes. I was up with masters peeps too. But casual playing at that point will only make you worse.
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There's a decent beginner guide on reddit that I've linked to friends in the past:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lf73b/my_beginners_guide_to_improving_at_starcraft_2/
Reading tips and watching streams is all well and good, but in the end the best way to get better at SC2 is to play SC2. Play some games against the AI (or better yet, some custom games with a friend), play a few team games (you can queue alone or with friends), and then jump right into 1v1. You're going to lose the majority of your first 15-20 games - the first time you get cannon rushed, the first time someone proxies (builds stuff inside or near your base), the first time you face banshees or DTs, etc. Accept this and embrace it.
Every loss is a learning experience; watch your replays, figure out what he did, and figure out how you can improve your build to stay one step ahead of him. Pick 1-2 builds per matchup (Liquidpedia or TL strategy forum) and practice the hell out of them. Constantly build workers and depots/pylons/overlords. Keep your minerals below 1000. With a couple of strategies and decent macro you'll be Platinum or higher in no time.

Thanks for the link. I've been analyzing my replays a lot but having a checklist might help!
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