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This is a definate yes. I was up with masters peeps too. But casual playing at that point will only make you worse.

right, so why don't you guys degrade a little more just so you all can play with me biggrin.gif
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right, so why don't you guys degrade a little more just so you all can play with me biggrin.gif

Have you added me yet?
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nope

I'll if I remember next time I get online, which is I dont know when

you can see me on channel if I do get on though


man if I play with you diamond / master ppl I'll be turtling my ass off tongue.gif
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nope
I'll if I remember next time I get online, which is I dont know when
you can see me on channel if I do get on though
man if I play with you diamond / master ppl I'll be turtling my ass off tongue.gif

It wont help. lol. YOu will just get behind. haha
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Well my buddy and I got to Rank 6 in our Bronze 2v2 league last night, then...

We played a few matches with Cravin and his buddy. It wasn't even fun we lost so bad. There was absolutely no challange in playing us. I lost all my confidence. We proceeded to loose 4 games in our bronze league after that. Not sure why, I just wasn't playing well at all last night, and I really think playing with the Platinum players made things worse.

BTW Cravin, why was there a big MLG Pro icon on one of you during the loading screen?
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It wont help. lol. YOu will just get behind. haha

i know. It's not helping the game. It's helping my feelings.

I'd rather die in my own turtle shell than having dicks poking at my backdoor every now and then and I can't stop it, I hate that so much it's not funny. My most disliked unit in the game = mutalisk.


I'm more of a macro guy, I can't do harasses (I mean I can try, and I'll do it decently, but after I'm done I'll have about 3k minerals and 1.5k gas), and I can't deal with harasses. I hate it so much. I think that's the sole reason I'm still stuck at gold / plat really
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Well my buddy and I got to Rank 6 in our Bronze 2v2 league last night, then...
We played a few matches with Cravin and his buddy. It wasn't even fun we lost so bad. There was absolutely no challange in playing us. I lost all my confidence. We proceeded to loose 4 games in our bronze league after that. Not sure why, I just wasn't playing well at all last night, and I really think playing with the Platinum players made things worse.
BTW Cravin, why was there a big MLG Pro icon on one of you during the loading screen?

I think you'd have benefitted more obsing some 1v1 games (I was going to play some with some plat friends)


And the MLG badge you saw was a map Mavrick had chosen for us to do our 2v2, basically the MLG maps prevent close spawns in 1v1 (before blizzard implemented it) and placed a supply depot at the base of the ramp to prevent pylon/rax block ins vs zergs.

I am watching a replay of the first game we played and when you asked what a supply depot we thought you were joking cause your buddy was terran didn't know you were asking about the one at the base of the ramp, thats from the MLG map

The biggest problem in lower leagues (you and your buddy) is the fact that you don't macro enough. You had pretty good unit production but when you lost your army you were behind. You have to be creating units/probes even while in battle.


I've been playing SC1 since the 90's and SC2 for over a year and am only plat, I remember it took me a season to get out of 1v1 bronze, then another season or 2 to get out of 1v1 silver. Just watch replays and play games. Playing helps you get down the mechanics.



I'm sorry if you felt disrespected but we were just playing for the fun of it and not to embarass you, and after games we tried to make suggestions we noticed while playing against you.
Edited by CravinR1 - 3/7/12 at 9:33pm
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I think you'd have benefitted more obsing some 1v1 games (I was going to play some with some plat friends)
And the MLG badge you saw was a map Mavrick had chosen for us to do our 2v2, basically the MLG maps prevent close spawns in 1v1 (before blizzard implemented it) and placed a supply depot at the base of the ramp to prevent pylon/rax block ins vs zergs.
The biggest problem in lower leagues (you and your buddy) is the fact that you don't macro enough. You had pretty good unit production but when you lost your army you were behind. You have to be creating units/probes even while in battle.
I've been playing SC1 since the 90's and SC2 for over a year and am only plat, I remember it took me a season to get out of 1v1 bronze, then another season or 2 to get out of 1v1 silver. Just watch replays and play games. Playing helps you get down the mechanics.
I'm sorry if you felt disrespected but we were just playing for the fun of it and not to embarass you, and after games we tried to make suggestions we noticed while playing against you.

No I didn't feel disrespected, just mad that I did so bad. I think it frustrated me enough that I wasn't enjoying playing. Ill have to see if I can upload a replay of a game where I feel I was playing as I should.

I played the demo of SC1 before it was released. Then played for about a year after it came out. I guess I never really played SC after it became super competetive.
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Well my buddy and I got to Rank 6 in our Bronze 2v2 league last night, then...
We played a few matches with Cravin and his buddy. It wasn't even fun we lost so bad. There was absolutely no challange in playing us. I lost all my confidence. We proceeded to loose 4 games in our bronze league after that. Not sure why, I just wasn't playing well at all last night, and I really think playing with the Platinum players made things worse.
BTW Cravin, why was there a big MLG Pro icon on one of you during the loading screen?


so you're silver 1v1 and now having problem in 2v2, right? (I actually went back all the way to check it cuz I know you mentioned it before biggrin.gif)

well, most ppl are better in 1v1, because you have only 1 opponent to deal with. The easiest example would be that in 1v1, the fastest rush that will come to you is a zerg 6-pool with 6 zerglings. In 2v2, its the same rush, but have double the zerglings.

Now that you have a buddy to play with you (instead of random teams), I think you just have to polish your ability to do the following things and you should be set and will slowly proceed to at least gold within 3 months :

1) one of you are gonna scout and not let your worker die before at least having a peek at both bases. Then being able to interpret your findings. for example terran 2 rax before orbital usually = marine or MM rush. Zerg early gas = possibly roaches. Nothing in protoss base = proxying somewhere, etc etc. And then react accordingly

2) able to fend off all annoying things that come to your base before 4 minutes. And expect to help each other after that time.

3) able to organize a decent rush with your buddy before 6 minute mark if you want to

4) know what units you should build more after the first encounter

5) (for terran) scan from time to time for vital info such as colossus tech, terran possible 1-1-1 banshee harass, dark templar rush, etc, and know how to react.

6) (for protoss) get observer when you can.

7) (for protoss) learn how to forcefield well

8) know when you can expand without much risk, know when would be a good attacking time (when upgrades just finished, when your new tech unit just arrived, etc)

9) and most importantly, always remember that resources can be transferred


Don't get depress just because you lost those matches. You're still new to team games and there are things you have to get used to. Just practice more and you will surely move up thumb.gif
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No I didn't feel disrespected, just mad that I did so bad. I think it frustrated me enough that I wasn't enjoying playing. Ill have to see if I can upload a replay of a game where I feel I was playing as I should.
I played the demo of SC1 before it was released. Then played for about a year after it came out. I guess I never really played SC after it became super competetive.

I never played competitive, I was a canon/carrier noob for 3 years (but won as much as I lost in random games)



BUT I am a SC2 enthusiast now. I watch alot of casts and listen and learn.

My PvT was stolen/modified from colMinigun, my PvP is a cheesy 18 probe, 50 gas, korean 4 gate Destiny cast, my PvZ is usually a 6 gate +1 husky cast from WhiteRa (15 nexus forge fe)


I am usually a rank higher in 2's than in 1's, so i'm plat now and have a diamond 2's (we tanked with cravin just for lulz, but my other 2 accounts are silver/gold 1's with diamond 2's teams) but i'm plat 1's so diamond 2's continues the +1 2v2 rank


I got MUCH better when I stopped the 2's (after I got the basics down) and just worked on 1's for a couple weeks. I played 40+ games determined to advance in rank and succeded.
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