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Yeah, between immortal busts, blink stalker all-ins, and roach bling all in, its tough to get a good macro game on the ladder. And from what I understand, it gets worse in diamond.
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Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post

Yeah, between immortal busts, blink stalker all-ins, and roach bling all in, its tough to get a good macro game on the ladder. And from what I understand, it gets worse in diamond.

Meh I have played all the leagues from Masters down.

One thing to note:

1v1:
Bronze - Lolwat its so fun, cheeses are really badly done (some guy once tried to marine / bunker / scv rush but forgot to bring a marine)
Silver - Little bit better cheese, but mainly mid-game ends.
Gold - Decent rushes, much more mid-game stuff, sometimes macro.
Platinum - Good rushes, same mid amount as gold but more macro now.
Diamond - Better rushes, nice mid game but still lacking at macro until you hit like top 50 or so.
Masters (from my extremely short time in it) - Nice openers, strong mid and good macro/micro to back it up.

Team games, bronze - silver = cheese. Master = Cheese that is done really well.
Everything in between is mass X unit or try to macro.

This is all based off of my terrible opinion and generalizing people from hundreds of games, so It won't really be that true tongue.gif


I really tend to be more of a macro player, but my recent games against Rlnd here makes me want to learn some sick timings to hit.
 
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OK guys help me out with my friends build. He 1 rax fe into 2 bunkers and then gets rines/banshees/bcs with upgrades

Seems like it'd be easy to bust but 2-3 bc's eat my stalkers and rines eat any immortals or sentries. Its so annoying. He also scans and snipes my obs so his cloaked banshees can clean me up.


VERY annoying, this is platinum terran btw
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Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post

Yeah, between immortal busts, blink stalker all-ins, and roach bling all in, its tough to get a good macro game on the ladder. And from what I understand, it gets worse in diamond.

Low diamond is where i got cheesed alot. But in the top twelve i actually had fun people tried to play legit with just early pressure to try and slow you down so their macro got ahead. Not including the occasional loser trying to cheese to masters. But back in those days i had learned how to deal with it and had seen it all already cause i played so often.
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OK guys help me out with my friends build. He 1 rax fe into 2 bunkers and then gets rines/banshees/bcs with upgrades
Seems like it'd be easy to bust but 2-3 bc's eat my stalkers and rines eat any immortals or sentries. Its so annoying. He also scans and snipes my obs so his cloaked banshees can clean me up.
VERY annoying, this is platinum terran btw

How about 1 gate FE into fast Carriers and HTs.
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OK guys help me out with my friends build. He 1 rax fe into 2 bunkers and then gets rines/banshees/bcs with upgrades

Seems like it'd be easy to bust but 2-3 bc's eat my stalkers and rines eat any immortals or sentries. Its so annoying. He also scans and snipes my obs so his cloaked banshees can clean me up.


VERY annoying, this is platinum terran btw

Dont let him get BCs lol.

4 gate? 1 gate expo into 3 gate + robo + timing attack? 2-3 immos.
 
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OK guys help me out with my friends build. He 1 rax fe into 2 bunkers and then gets rines/banshees/bcs with upgrades
Seems like it'd be easy to bust but 2-3 bc's eat my stalkers and rines eat any immortals or sentries. Its so annoying. He also scans and snipes my obs so his cloaked banshees can clean me up.
VERY annoying, this is platinum terran btw



to be honest that's the first time in roughly 9 months I've heard BC's achieving something, no offense

agree on HT's

maybe you would want to watch the replay I post about 2 weeks ago on a PvT, literally same situation, its just that I'm the terran, and I lost.

Might be helpful to you
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Ive seen a few master peeps going straight BC on two base lol. Easily scout-able but terrible if you didn't. Not mass, but 3 or four to supplement tanks and rines. haha.
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I've tried 1 gate FE into 4 gate robo, his CLOAKED banshees rape my stalkers (after he scans and snipes my 2 obs with his mass rines)

Tried Prism with zealot/sentry/stalkers but his mass rines just own that early game

What do u think about 4 gate robo with obs into 2 starport carriers on 2 bases ?


Or are voids not better vs BCs?
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Void Rays do kill bc's but that would be extremely all in: you can barely support double stargate on 2 base. Rather a single stargate that you chronoboost. Blink Stalker in mass number seems to me the better option, with a robo solely for obs, but keep them above your army not this, a lot harder to snipe. Add a double forge to keep up with the upgrades, seems valid.
 
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