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I wish. Sorry, I was continuing my thought from my previous post. i fixed it
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I've seen that Day9. I dono, I get really frustrated. i was practicing my PVT with my friend today and I had about twice his army (cost wise and the unit composition was in my favor) and he was like "Ok, you're gonna roll me" and he came out on top. My micro is suffering a great deal. I engage a fight and before i know, its over. I don't see it happen. It's like it happens to quickly and my brain freezes, I just stare at the screen trying to understand what to do.
I've been playing for about 6-7 months, I watch a lot of pro videos and youtube videos. I understand what's good against what, I have a build order lined up for matchups (and my buddy says the order (and execution) itself is perfect, tons of probes, quick units .etc). I just can't react to stuff. I get dropped, I lose. Zerg goes Muta, I lose.

Here's an advise: don't micro. Stop even looking at the battle. Try to make sure you have an ok position with zealots in front followed by immortals, sentries, stalkers and colossi. Hit the quardian shield button as soon as the battle happens and go do something else. Chronoboost your tech, warp-in units, add buildings, sent a bunch of zealots from proxy pylon to one of his expansions... Then look back at the battle to see how it's going. In PvT especially position is often more important than micro and macro is the key to win games below masters.

To have a good macro you need a basic plan for the game so you know what is the next thing you're going to do. Read a guide on each matchup or watch a day 9 daily and just try to stick with one build. If you lose try to adjust it so you don't lose to the same thing again. The popular standard builds for protoss at the moment are: vs Z - FFE into 4 gate pressure and tech (look for heroic FFE or Naniwa 2 base colossi timing), vs T 1 gate expand into 3 gate robo into tech (colossi or double forge, look for CreatorPrime PvT and MC's 1 gate FE), PvP - 3 gate pressure or 1 gate tech into random midgame into mass colossi (don't care much about this matchup, it's retarded).
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I've seen that Day9. I dono, I get really frustrated. i was practicing my PVT with my friend today and I had about twice his army (cost wise and the unit composition was in my favor) and he was like "Ok, you're gonna roll me" and he came out on top. My micro is suffering a great deal. I engage a fight and before i know, its over. I don't see it happen. It's like it happens to quickly and my brain freezes, I just stare at the screen trying to understand what to do.
I've been playing for about 6-7 months, I watch a lot of pro videos and youtube videos. I understand what's good against what, I have a build order lined up for matchups (and my buddy says the order (and execution) itself is perfect, tons of probes, quick units .etc). I just can't react to stuff. I get dropped, I lose. Zerg goes Muta, I lose.

What league are you? From my experience, any league under Diamond can be won with solid macro. If you are having trouble with you micro and multitasking, Protoss have the luxury of automated defense. I wouldnt be scared to drop cannons behind your mineral line. Also, its almost guaranteed that Terran will drop one of your bases while engaging your main army. If you have cannons already there, leaving 2 zealots behind will help a lot too.

Also, a large part of getting better multitasking/micro is higher apm, which is largely just muscle memory. The more you play, the more natural it will be for you to hit a string of hotkeys to defend drops/warp in zealots at main/etc just because you have done it so many times before. More GG = More skill.
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I've had luck at rank ~15 masters tvp by going macro mode (staying +1 base) with marine/hellion/banshee. The concept is:

1rax fast expand into 3x rax making mostly marines.
Take fast 4 gas and tech to double starports with tech bays, usually 3x bunkers at expo
Get blue flame and reactor factory
Harass/scout with hellion and banshee at 9 to 11 minutes.

If protoss goes:
stalker heavy army with observer: This means bunkers and planetary fortress will be very strong. Take a 3rd and even 4th while slowly transitioning into MMM.
Fast 3rd, cannons, templar tech This is most common response but I have found it the easiest to win against. Keep banshee's cloaked most of the time (feedback useless) and spread out (storm useless) with taking a 3rd and 4th. He will eventually have to dump minerals into mass zealots so make lots of hellions. Composition of MMM or more air or siege tank doesn't matter, just win with very greedy macro in 10 to 15 minute time-frame.
Starport tech Cut banshee production, and switch to standard MMM. Don't be aggressive with macro and go for a big MMM push with about 6 medivac's and standard marine/marauder composition. It should hit before he has splash damage.
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I cant wait for the day when i can watch sc2 on my tv like football. Without the hassle of managing the steam and long waits between games.
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http://kotaku.com/5902683/gamers-watch-over-3-billion-minutes-of-competitive-gaming-per-month
TwitchTV + MLG signed a deal with CBS smile.gif.
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I cant wait for the day when i can watch sc2 on my tv like football. Without the hassle of managing the steam and long waits between games.

The deal is with CBSi (i = interactive). CBSi owns Cnet and Gamespot, among other internet IP's. Basically going to up the quality of streaming services. Article. This would be the same company that ran the online streaming services for March Madness. I'm not sure if anyone else watched it online, but the quality was excellent. Can't wait to see the fruits of this deal.
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The deal is with CBSi (i = interactive). CBSi owns Cnet and Gamespot, among other internet IP's. Basically going to up the quality of streaming services. Article. This would be the same company that ran the online streaming services for March Madness. I'm not sure if anyone else watched it online, but the quality was excellent. Can't wait to see the fruits of this deal.

Shhhweeett. If it handled march madness it will handle sc2 just fine.
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Anyone watching IPL's tournament on all the old maps? Pretty entertaining.

http://www.justin.tv/ignproleague/
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I've hit a wall. I'm mid gold and I just keep losing and then winning and losing but I'm not moving in any direction. My macro is bad, my micro is bad, I feel completely hopeless when I play. Gold should not be this hard :/ Any Protoss players out there want to share some knowledge or something? I'm lost as to what to do. The person who was teaching me said i should quit because I was just that bad...
The person teaching me is a high masters protoss and everything just makes sense for him. Every game he says I lose for a different reason. It's hard to stay on top of all the stuff...
"you timing was 10 seconds too late"
"Got the tower too late"
"Guardian shield"
"A force field here"
"All you need to worry about is his 3rd base timing..(later)..well he never got a second base"
"You engagement was sloppy"
And it goes on and on. I feel like im doing everything wrong.


I was gold for 3 seasons before FINALLY getting moved to Platinum at the start of this season, 7 and am Protoss only for the last 2 seasons.

Depends on what your problems are. Generally any Platinum or lower Zerg player I will beat 80% of the time now... Toss about 60%... freakin' Terran is where I have serious issues. I won my last 2 against Terran but I swear I must have been on a 15 game losing streak against that race.

Just remember you can never do everything "right." Even the masters and grand-masters players I watch (EVEN KOREANS!) often make mistakes. Macro is most important. If you can get to 4 base/5 base on Toss it's very hard to lose...

Unless it's Terran tongue.gif
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