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I only know how to play Terran, but I would like to explore others. I just was told Terran was the easiest to begin with.

That is subjective. I've done well with all 3 races but I think Zerg is easiest personally. I was able to roach max at 13minutes with having NEVER played zerg once. Which is ridiculous imo.
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That is subjective. I've done well with all 3 races but I think Zerg is easiest personally. I was able to roach max at 13minutes with having NEVER played zerg once. Which is ridiculous imo.

I'll learn whatever race someone is willing to teach me. I don't know much about strategy, or build orders, or even what works best against what. I am willing to learn though, so if you have time for a couple of tutorial matches, I'd choose zerg to learn. Thanks
    
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When is a good 4 gate time? Mine hits between ~5:55 - ~6:10 depending on if I mess up a bit.

5:34 is when the first round of warp-ins should happen, so by 6:10 ish you should have something like 8 stalkers + 3 zealots total. Basically the person with more stalkers usually wins so snipe theirs first, and ignore/kite their zealots.
Though it is a very cheesy build - your economy is way behind if your opponent didn't cheese/4 gate too.

I'm mainly trying a FFE variation in PvP these days, though the biggest danger is if I don't snipe a drop to my main. If I spot a 4 gate, I can cut probes too, throw down a ton of cannons, and still be up a nexus; if it's a robo build I can get out sentries to FF most of the zealots in front of the cannons and target fire the immortals.
Edited by Sainesk - 4/30/12 at 11:45am
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I only know how to play Terran, but I would like to explore others. I just was told Terran was the easiest to begin with.

You were told wrong lol.
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I feel like I'm going to be promoted soon. Been top 8 silver for a while facing top 8 gold and winning. Are the leagues locked or do I just have to win more?

Also another question. When is a good 4 gate time? Mine hits between ~5:55 - ~6:10 depending on if I mess up a bit.


Blizzard will not promote you until you start losing. Basically they are gaging where you should be. I watched destiny do a mass queen build where he was "proving" macro was more important than composition up to platinum league. If I'm not mistaken he was promoted from bronze to platinum.
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I only know how to play Terran, but I would like to explore others. I just was told Terran was the easiest to begin with.

You were told wrong lol.

Nah it is the easiest race to begin with because of the campaign. Zerg is the hardest to play/start especially at the lower levels
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Blizzard will not promote you until you start losing. Basically they are gaging where you should be. I watched destiny do a mass queen build where he was "proving" macro was more important than composition up to platinum league. If I'm not mistaken he was promoted from bronze to platinum.

I know macro>Damn near everything in the lower leagues and that's what I've been working on but why do I need to lose to get promoted ?! If they're gaging where I should be losing would make it seem like I need to be lower than what I am. axesmiley.png
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In order to get promoted you have to beat your league 100% of the time and the next higher league 50% of the time
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I'm mainly trying a FFE variation in PvP these days, though the biggest danger is if I don't snipe a drop to my main. If I spot a 4 gate, I can cut probes too, throw down a ton of cannons, and still be up a nexus; if it's a robo build I can get out sentries to FF most of the zealots in front of the cannons and target fire the immortals.

Cannon fast expanding in pvp should always lose to a 4gate, on any map. 8 stalkers will beat 10 cannons and the stalkers will arrive before you have sufficient forcefields.

Edit- I played pvp's for several hours trying to make FFE work against a friends 20probe 4gate (he was in diamond league, i'm in masters), and I could never get it to hold. Shakuras is probably the best map because I could have 4 cannons and 2 sentries as he hits, but even if the forcefields perfectly capture 2 stalkers, his next round of warp in's is just too much.
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What league are you Sainesk? I love seeing a Protoss forge FE, if I dont do 1 gate 2 robo immortal drop I'll do 5 gate with a robo for obs and a well placed pylon to warp into the main, or drop a quick expo and be ahead in tech.
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