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FOR THE LUB OF JEBUS, hotkey your units!


Psshhhh, thats for you pros. wink.gif

What did you think overall? Pretty bad eh?
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Psshhhh, thats for you pros. wink.gif
What did you think overall? Pretty bad eh?

needs more consistent droning. you go from like 30 to 50 to 90 with the time gaps in between being pretty large.

and overlord spread. you had like all your overlords @ ur 3rd.

i just watched it on 8x and stopped 20mins in cause MLG, so i couldn't detail it for you. but those were the glaringly obvious ones.

hotkey your units!! consistent droning/larva spending!! overlord spread!!

so pretty much, pretty bad.
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needs more consistent droning. you go from like 30 to 50 to 90 with the time gaps in between being pretty large.
and overlord spread. you had like all your overlords @ ur 3rd.
i just watched it on 8x and stopped 20mins in cause MLG, so i couldn't detail it for you. but those were the glaringly obvious ones.
hotkey your units!! consistent droning/larva spending!! overlord spread!!
so pretty much, pretty bad.

Did you miss the pheonix killing my overlords? Lol
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yeah, i saw that. but he stopped being active with his phoenix after a bit.

i mean, you see active phoenix and you reacted with spores, that's good. but what happens when the phoenix became inactive, how do you react?

reaction is more than just responding to what he's doing. it's also about what he's not doing. and in this case it was when he went inactive with his phoenix.

therefore, you react to his inactivity-ness with returning to OL spreading.

if not, then his phoenix benefited him the entire game. even when he's not using them. so either force him to use them and tax his APM, or regain an advantage with OL spreading. either way, it's a win-win for you.

naah meen, bro?
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Psshhhh, thats for you pros. wink.gif
What did you think overall? Pretty bad eh?

Your decisions were good like denying the third with roach ling, getting spores against phoenix, splitting armies late game etc. but your macro was poor. You should aim to have 60+ drones at 8:00 and you had less then 50. The rest is less relevant. Normally you shouldn't be able to win with less then 55 drones at 8:00 in 3 hatch vs FFE scenario.

I think your 3rd and 4th gas were late and I don't remember if you took macro hatch around 8-9 minutes. Also you teched pretty slow, you really should have infestors and hive by 20 minutes at the latest, actually more like 15-16.
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Your decisions were good like denying the third with roach ling, getting spores against phoenix, splitting armies late game etc. but your macro was poor. You should aim to have 60+ drones at 8:00 and you had less then 50. The rest is less relevant. Normally you shouldn't be able to win with less then 55 drones at 8:00 in 3 hatch vs FFE scenario.
I think your 3rd and 4th gas were late and I don't remember if you took macro hatch around 8-9 minutes. Also you teched pretty slow, you really should have infestors and hive by 20 minutes at the latest, actually more like 15-16.

Yea, my macro waz ballz. I just cant play enough to stay brushed up. Tech is slow for me too like you said. I guess what gets me is worrying that im being to greedy with drones and tech, and then get rolled by a 2 base all in, or even just a 2 base timing. Hmmm. What should i do different?



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yeah, i saw that. but he stopped being active with his phoenix after a bit.
i mean, you see active phoenix and you reacted with spores, that's good. but what happens when the phoenix became inactive, how do you react?
reaction is more than just responding to what he's doing. it's also about what he's not doing. and in this case it was when he went inactive with his phoenix.
therefore, you react to his inactivity-ness with returning to OL spreading.
if not, then his phoenix benefited him the entire game. even when he's not using them. so either force him to use them and tax his APM, or regain an advantage with OL spreading. either way, it's a win-win for you.
naah meen, bro?

makes absolute sense. Great point. thank you.
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And don't forget, anti. HOTKEY YOUR UNITSSSSSSSSSSSXXXXXZZZZZD
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And don't forget, anti. HOTKEY YOUR UNITSSSSSSSSSSSXXXXXZZZZZD

or just train yourself to have like 10 million apm and just micro each unit individually tongue.gif
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Yea, my macro waz ballz. I just cant play enough to stay brushed up. Tech is slow for me too like you said. I guess what gets me is worrying that im being to greedy with drones and tech, and then get rolled by a 2 base all in, or even just a 2 base timing. Hmmm. What should i do different?

Just work on the first 8 minutes of the game. The thing is that you're not cutting drones to get more or faster units. You're just cutting them. Then you get less units at similar or later timing because of lower econ. So in the end, if anything, you're more vulnerable to 2 base all-ins.
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Hmmmm. Amazing. Lol given its a two base of some type of course.
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