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Do any of the Zerg players here use the cancel extractor trick to get an extra drone at the start?
Do you do this every time, or does it depend on the build you are going for?
I used to do this if I was planning on throwing down an earlier pool on 11 or 12 - either single or double trick and avoid building the overlord until the pool was in progress. I've since switched over to 9/overlord and have been going 14/gas 13/pool almost exclusively, since you'll be able to start zergling speed just after your pool finishes.

Found this thread on TeamLiquid: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=130273

I remember hearing several people say that it was either a net wash or a loss of minerals, so it doesn't really seem to be worth it.
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I'd be more surprised if your Z apm wasn't higher

Zerg has more stuff to do all around (which is part of why it is harder to learn. Queens laying eggs constantly, expanding quickly and on time, harassing w/ mutas early and often. . .)
There is a lot to do but honestly I'm playing at the same effort level for all 3 races. It's just strange that I average probably 40 ~ apm higher with my Z.

I can really feel the room I have for APM improvement. I really think I can get my APM much higher.

*Edit*

I still do the extractor trick. It may not be amazing or even gain anything, but its too cool .
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There is a lot to do but honestly I'm playing at the same effort level for all 3 races. It's just strange that I average probably 40 ~ apm higher with my Z.

I can really feel the room I have for APM improvement. I really think I can get my APM much higher.

*Edit*

I still do the extractor trick. It may not be amazing or even gain anything, but its too cool .
Never done it, almost sounds like a cheating move to get more drones for more minerals early on
    
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Probably not missing anything as bur pointed out.
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the last game husky casted, the zerg player had over 400-500 apm at one point.
    
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"often"?

Understatement of the decade~

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Do any of the Zerg players here use the cancel extractor trick to get an extra drone at the start?
Do you do this every time, or does it depend on the build you are going for?
I do. I go 9/OL build and I do this to get my 11th drone started before my OL comes out.
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Never done it, almost sounds like a cheating move to get more drones for more minerals early on
If you think about it though, everyone else starts with 11 supply and we only get 10.
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I do. I go 9/OL build and I do this to get my 11th drone started before my OL comes out.

If you think about it though, everyone else starts with 11 supply and we only get 10.
Wrong. Only terran gets 11 supply in the beginning.
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Wrong. Only terran gets 11 supply in the beginning.
Oh? Hmm, guess I never really have played as protoss
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Wait.
Terran starts with more supply than the other races?!?!?
Good. Thats another reason for me to hate all the Terran players out there LOL JK.
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I do. I go 9/OL build and I do this to get my 11th drone started before my OL comes out.

If you think about it though, everyone else starts with 11 supply and we only get 10.
Yes, zerg only has 10. Terran has 11, why an extra one, no clue. Protoss is 10 as well I think I might try that trick to see the benefits if any, although, I'll do it once I get to 10, get an OL, only to make an extractor and a drone, then cancel. Thinking about it though, it does seem that it would have some economical benefits since you have an extra drone early on

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Wait.
Terran starts with more supply than the other races?!?!?
Good. Thats another reason for me to hate all the Terran players out there LOL JK.
Yes, they do. Another reason to hate them
    
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