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Yeah which is why I said I don't know if I believe his theory about the foreigners, but I do agree with his balance problems.
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The balance is very fragile.

Before people used infestors what were the options for Zergs? Personally as a Protoss I felt like PvZ meant survive till max and then roll. Same applied for TvZ, where all terran units were that much more efficient than anything that Z (baneling landmines though smile.gif )had to offer. Oh, and muta's but that crap OP. (Joke, I just hate dealing with muta's.)

With infestor (and fast Broodlord) usage zerg finally has an extremely efficient unit, arguably to efficient (free units TT).

For balance I would say there isn't much going on. Whether the game is fun though is something else. Fungal (like FF) doesn't allow much micro from the opponent. Infested terrans are very efficient and relatively cheap in the energy count.

Blizzard has been applying some very small, but in my view critical, nerfs and buffs, which make the game a lot better.
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The infestor is way too efficient, I don't think touching up other things is helping, its just avoiding the problem. Zerg was not nearly as bad as people made it out to be back before the Infestor was figured out. I can't say I've seen any good direction from them.
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Anyone watching Iron Squid Ro8?

3 foreingers - all zerg, 5 koreans. Overall 6 zergs, 1 t, 1 p.
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The balance is very fragile.

Before people used infestors what were the options for Zergs? Personally as a Protoss I felt like PvZ meant survive till max and then roll. Same applied for TvZ, where all terran units were that much more efficient than anything that Z (baneling landmines though smile.gif )had to offer. Oh, and muta's but that crap OP. (Joke, I just hate dealing with muta's.)

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Blizzard has been applying some very small, but in my view critical, nerfs and buffs, which make the game a lot better.

i ALWAYS use, inmortal sentrie all in, or inmortals, sentrie chagelots, is way to powerful againts zerg..
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was few seaons i was in bronze and couldnt get out...
placed in silver with this patch... got up to Rank 1 in silver... cant wait to get home to play:)

thats if my folding doesnt get in me way!!!mad.gifmad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
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I also love charge zeolots!!! FUN
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Yukks, you need to allow peeps to whisper you. I cant add you. lol

my bad, i will add you later anyway
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The balance is very fragile.

Before people used infestors what were the options for Zergs? Personally as a Protoss I felt like PvZ meant survive till max and then roll. Same applied for TvZ, where all terran units were that much more efficient than anything that Z (baneling landmines though smile.gif )had to offer. Oh, and muta's but that crap OP. (Joke, I just hate dealing with muta's.)

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For balance I would say there isn't much going on. Whether the game is fun though is something else. Fungal (like FF) doesn't allow much micro from the opponent. Infested terrans are very efficient and relatively cheap in the energy count.

Blizzard has been applying some very small, but in my view critical, nerfs and buffs, which make the game a lot better.

i ALWAYS use, inmortal sentrie all in, or inmortals, sentrie chagelots, is way to powerful againts zerg..

Zerg is extremely powerful, and the immortal sentry all-in is also extremely strong, yet you don't see it in top level games any more, probably just as often as you would see a four gate in PvP. I find it exceptionally interesting that the majority of the players are currently going for a stargate based army, usually 5 phoenix and a VR follow up. I don't know why but it's what I've been seeing in gsl and proleague.

I know someone else who also goes immortal sentry or 8 gate all-in, but I don't like all-ins. In any form or shape. Personally I'm trying to refine immortal, chargelot, (sentry), high templar. I feel it's the strongest ground army, cost wise. Scouting against muta's and broodlord timing is critical though ofcourse.
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Zerg is extremely powerful, and the immortal sentry all-in is also extremely strong, yet you don't see it in top level games any more, probably just as often as you would see a four gate in PvP. I find it exceptionally interesting that the majority of the players are currently going for a stargate based army, usually 5 phoenix and a VR follow up. I don't know why but it's what I've been seeing in gsl and proleague.

I know someone else who also goes immortal sentry or 8 gate all-in, but I don't like all-ins. In any form or shape. Personally I'm trying to refine immortal, chargelot, (sentry), high templar. I feel it's the strongest ground army, cost wise. Scouting against muta's and broodlord timing is critical though ofcourse.

one advised for you, when you push with you first inmortals sentry army, you should have at least 6 or 8 sentries, and some zelots but THEN, when you need backup from your proxy pylon or warp prism (i preffer warp prism) warp in only zelots, and some stalkers, if you warp in only sentries you indded will have forcefields but no range units to do damage, and remember zelots can be used as forcefield-ataccking units.. thumb.gif
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