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I just.. Forget to tech up, I guess doh.gif

I did get a good amount of Infestors out because he just mass marined, but I didn't really know what to pair them with. Should my comp just be Broodlords + Corruptors with infestors if they're good against the enemy comp?

Of course.. that's all zerg about.. i only counter that with mass blink stalkers, archons, and mamaship
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Of course.. that's all zerg about.. i only counter that with mass blink stalkers, archons, and mamaship

def not all zerg is about. lol

But the best for sure.
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Broodlords + Corruptors is the money-shot if you tech up quick enough. I was only a Gold player tho so thats as far as i know tongue.gif
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. I really need help. I can't seem to win anymore ... I lose every single game. Went from rank 9 plat to rank 50. mad.gif
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh. I really need help. I can't seem to win anymore ... I lose every single game. Went from rank 9 plat to rank 50. mad.gif

which race do you play ? againts which race you lose the most ? againts which combinations of army you lost the most ? do you frequently scout the enemy base ? do you expand while you are doing your fisrt attack of after hold the first wave ?

im current top 1 plat with another account trying to get diamond to my friend, maybe i can help you a bit
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I play Protoss. The matchup i lose the most is PvP or TvP. TvZ is better for me, but i have problems with roach max out of 3 bases. The same goes for terran when they go for mec / mass banshee's. I just don't know how to recognize it or how to respond.

I try to scout a lot. But i must admit that when i am focussing heavily on my macro .. my scouting slips. redface.gif

Last game PvP: I scout after 13 gate. I see no chrono on his nexus and 2 gasses with my probe, so i was not scared of any early push / rushes. I take my robo and 3 gates and expand. After that i hold of his push barely ... by the skin of my teeth. I get my second robo and start to build collosus, then i take my 3rd base ( after i see him taking his 3rd first ). Again i think i am safe for now. I already had my forge out and was working on +1 attack.

Then suddenly he is at my ramp with 2 colossus more and more stalkers while he was expanding. And i'm dead. And i am like: Ok what the hell just happened? mad.gif (Ok, not really. I am really susceptible to raging at moments like this)

I normally expand when i "feel" i can. But since i am losing so much i just take my expansion as soon as i see him taking his. I hardly ever attack first ... at least not for the first 10/13 minutes.

It's so frigging frustrating that it just takes a lot of the fun out of the game. Stresses me out a bit. rolleyes.gif
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I play Protoss. The matchup i lose the most is PvP or TvP. TvZ is better for me, but i have problems with roach max out of 3 bases. The same goes for terran when they go for mec / mass banshee's. I just don't know how to recognize it or how to respond.

I try to scout a lot. But i must admit that when i am focussing heavily on my macro .. my scouting slips. redface.gif

Last game PvP: I scout after 13 gate. I see no chrono on his nexus and 2 gasses with my probe, so i was not scared of any early push / rushes. I take my robo and 3 gates and expand. After that i hold of his push barely ... by the skin of my teeth. I get my second robo and start to build collosus, then i take my 3rd base ( after i see him taking his 3rd first ). Again i think i am safe for now. I already had my forge out and was working on +1 attack.

Then suddenly he is at my ramp with 2 colossus more and more stalkers while he was expanding. And i'm dead. And i am like: Ok what the hell just happened? mad.gif (Ok, not really. I am really susceptible to raging at moments like this)

I normally expand when i "feel" i can. But since i am losing so much i just take my expansion as soon as i see him taking his. I hardly ever attack first ... at least not for the first 10/13 minutes.

It's so frigging frustrating that it just takes a lot of the fun out of the game. Stresses me out a bit. rolleyes.gif

In the game you described, did you scout when he expanded? What build he was doing? Were you surprised by his attack?

If you play and think you are safe to expand, you shouldn't 3 gate robo expand. 3 gate robo expand is for if you think a ton of pressure is going to come your way. Much more common is either a 1 gate robo or 2 gate expand, which, with the information you scouted, is perfectly safe.
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I play Protoss. The matchup i lose the most is PvP or TvP. TvZ is better for me, but i have problems with roach max out of 3 bases. The same goes for terran when they go for mec / mass banshee's. I just don't know how to recognize it or how to respond.

I try to scout a lot. But i must admit that when i am focussing heavily on my macro .. my scouting slips. redface.gif

Last game PvP: I scout after 13 gate. I see no chrono on his nexus and 2 gasses with my probe, so i was not scared of any early push / rushes. I take my robo and 3 gates and expand. After that i hold of his push barely ... by the skin of my teeth. I get my second robo and start to build collosus, then i take my 3rd base ( after i see him taking his 3rd first ). Again i think i am safe for now. I already had my forge out and was working on +1 attack.

Then suddenly he is at my ramp with 2 colossus more and more stalkers while he was expanding. And i'm dead. And i am like: Ok what the hell just happened? mad.gif (Ok, not really. I am really susceptible to raging at moments like this)

I normally expand when i "feel" i can. But since i am losing so much i just take my expansion as soon as i see him taking his. I hardly ever attack first ... at least not for the first 10/13 minutes.

It's so frigging frustrating that it just takes a lot of the fun out of the game. Stresses me out a bit. rolleyes.gif

PvP is alll about who has more colos.. you should get at least 2 observers around and some pylons to check his moves and expos, my best match is pvp and pvz. Pvt i got mad about those early pushes. We should play

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In the game you described, did you scout when he expanded? What build he was doing? Were you surprised by his attack?

If you play and think you are safe to expand, you shouldn't 3 gate robo expand. 3 gate robo expand is for if you think a ton of pressure is going to come your way. Much more common is either a 1 gate robo or 2 gate expand, which, with the information you scouted, is perfectly safe.

Yes i was very surprised. Maybe because my scouting slipped. The thing is with the builds. I don't really know how to recognize them. As for my own build: i have a general idea of what i am doing but i dont know the specific timings.

hmm that's interesting. 1 gate robo or 2 gates is better then 3 gate robo expand. I think i just build 3 gateways because i am scared as hell rolleyes.gif

@ yukks

I will add you. Which server do you play on?


just for your enjoyment .. my last PvZ match .. which i actually won smile.gif

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22164626/PVZ.SC2Replay

and a pvt .. which i actually lost .. im sorry .. terran is just op frown.gif

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22164626/pvt.SC2Replay

And last but not least .. a pvt which i believe i played pretty decent in smile.gif Scouted his early push and managed to hold it off twice. Got storm and it was pretty much over.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22164626/PvT%20decent.SC2Replay
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