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Ploppy, I agree with your advice and appreciate the lengthy reply. There are definitely plenty of things wrong with my play like suiciding my entire army into a poorly chosen engagement, massing units and forgetting to tech, not properly adapting my tech to dealing with what just killed my army, etc. In fact, I find that the more I make my way up the ladder the more I realize how terrible I am. smile.gif

Definitely the most important thing is to look at my losses and understand how I could have responded better to the situation, despite my limitations. It's funny but the answer is almost always the same: tech faster and choose better engagements instead of just rushing in. Right now that is the main thing I need to work on.
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Ploppy, I agree with your advice and appreciate the lengthy reply. There are definitely plenty of things wrong with my play like suiciding my entire army into a poorly chosen engagement, massing units and forgetting to tech, not properly adapting my tech to dealing with what just killed my army, etc. In fact, I find that the more I make my way up the ladder the more I realize how terrible I am. smile.gif

Definitely the most important thing is to look at my losses and understand how I could have responded better to the situation, despite my limitations. It's funny but the answer is almost always the same: tech faster and choose better engagements instead of just rushing in. Right now that is the main thing I need to work on.

The funny part is I don't hotkey my armies... I need to but it's a bad habit I never fixed..
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I'm wondering, at what level do players begin regularly hotkeying their units? Because I often play against people platinum and lower who do not hotkey their armies until they attack, or sometimes even attack without hotkeying.

I guess it's easier for Zerg to do it, since they can just hotkey their larvae as they're producing units, but I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would omit such an important step. I don't think I've played a single game since starting in bronze when I did not do this.
I have done that since silver league.
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Note he builds cannon before he sees the zerglings.

Here's another one
http://drop.sc/302304
constantly looking at terran's base (no obs or anything)

edit:
Yes he is using maphack.

I knew it! Explains how he can be master with such a horrible macro.
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I have done that since silver league.

Lol.. ctrl click is my friend. Oh how so many battles could have been saved if I had just hotkeyed mah banelings...

I will work on that now that I have a practice account on the Korean servers.
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The funny part is I don't hotkey my armies... I need to but it's a bad habit I never fixed..

No kidding, even at diamond/master? I think that Zerg have it easiest in this regard because when the larvae is selected and you've just made a certain unit, you ctrl-click your cocoons and then shift-1/2/3 to add them to the appropriate control group. All done without even needing to look at hatcheries, larvae, or the units themselves.
     
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The funny part is I don't hotkey my armies... I need to but it's a bad habit I never fixed..

No kidding, even at diamond/master? I think that Zerg have it easiest in this regard because when the larvae is selected and you've just made a certain unit, you ctrl-click your cocoons and then shift-1/2/3 to add them to the appropriate control group. All done without even needing to look at hatcheries, larvae, or the units themselves.

I did this once, with mutalisks. They ended up rallying to my flock that was on the other side of a terrans base


pew pew pew... no more reinforcements tt
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I did this once, with mutalisks. They ended up rallying to my flock that was on the other side of a terrans base


pew pew pew... no more reinforcements tt

I've had that happen, there's definitely a learning curve to using it correctly. OTOH I can't imagine how people play zergling or muta wars in ZvZ without this.
     
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I've had that happen, there's definitely a learning curve to using it correctly. OTOH I can't imagine how people play zergling or muta wars in ZvZ without this.
I find good ling bane battles to be the hardest..
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I find good ling bane battles to be the hardest..

I think they have done a lot for helping me develop my mechanics. It seems that in lower leagues almost everyone all-ins or cheeses in ZvZ. I've found TangSC's aggressive speedling opening (drone to 16, expo, mass speedling timing) extremely effective as a counter to cheese and as a way to either win outright or gain an advantage to transition into the mid-game.
     
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