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Anyone here use custom hotkey setups? Was looking at The Core but that seems completely unnecessary for me. To be honest I don't even use camera locations, I'm not that good. I just made my own Zerg hotkey setup which basically tries to only use the keys 1-4, Q-R, A-F, and Z-V. All special unit abilities are on F/D/R and all building upgrades are Q/W/E. Not sure if this is a good idea (Will test it tonight) but it seems like it will make everything much more intuitive, and I'll never have to reach over to U for Ultras or P for Patrol.
Edited by MKUL7R4 - 3/26/13 at 12:16pm
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I use the core, or actually, a variation of the core. I was already masters when I made the switch, and it took me over 200 games to get used to the change. Muscle memory and habits are really hard to change. It was still worth it.

The stock SC2 keybinds aren't very good, but you could still go pro on the stock settings. One thing I would say is, don't count yourself out and leave out keybind options that will be helpful in the future.

Before I used the core, I basically overlapped 6-0 by holding ctrl and hitting 1-5. I used to set all my hotkeys with shift 1-0, and the higher numbers (6-0) were used for buildings, so I wasn't adding to them that often.. Initially I thought the system was great, but the trade off was losing the ability to add individual units/structures to control groups. Instead I had to select the control group first, hold shift and add the additional ones, then hit the number again to rebind. It wasn't until I changed things up that I realized all my eggs (as zerg), should be added to a control group while still in production. I lost that functionality with my custom hotkeys.

While you may not use camera locations now, there comes a time when they are useful and should be included in your game.

Terran can make use of camera locations with different bases, as well as their various walls. Set a camera location to your rally point, then move A move reinforcements across the map. This prevents units getting misrallied, or getting picked off walking to a rally point.

Protoss can use camera locations for additional bases, and for groups of buildings they want to chrono, such as forges or gateways. Another camera location can be used at forward pylons to make it easy to warp in additional units.

Zerg can use camera hotkeys for injecting. Camera locations drastically lower reaction time when dealing with drops.

While these things may not seem very important right now, it takes a while to build muscle memory, and an even longer time to change it. If your going to change your hotkeys (I've done it about 4 times), I'd suggest doing it right the first time and saving yourself a big headache.
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So it's been almost a week since i play SC2 , reached #1 in my Silver Division now , off to gold soon hopefully.

http://www.twitch.tv/simsons2/b/382664220 , recording of two games i played today, kind of ****ed up my bo n stuff against toss in second yet emerged victorious Blades SH contain with some support for them works quite great
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What is "The Core" you guys are referring to?
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What is "The Core" you guys are referring to?

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I would personally not recommend the core, it seems too... weird for me... I don't like having my thumb on shift. (I also hated the way camera hotkeys worked, forced you to center on a building. Maybe I want to hotkey empty space for later reference? Ever think of that stupid Jakatak?)

I personally use darkgrid but would also not sincerely recommend it. The default hotkey setup might not be optimal but it's definitely not bad. Some relocating is advisable.

(WOL diamond HOTS plat:()

PS.
I don't like Jakatak (the maker), most of the comments I see him make are dull and dumb.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Don't most pros use the standard hotkeys or a variation of the grid? One reason I don't want to use The Core is that I switch between playing SC2 and Dota 2 multiple times per day. I don't play nearly enough to experience wrist or hand fatigue anyways.
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I played JaKaTaK in HotS beta and he was pretty bad. The core or his other improvement stuff he came up with didn't seem to help him before he rage quit without gg. Most good players I know use either grid or standard layout with slight modifications.
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Thanks for the feedback guys. Don't most pros use the standard hotkeys or a variation of the grid? One reason I don't want to use The Core is that I switch between playing SC2 and Dota 2 multiple times per day. I don't play nearly enough to experience wrist or hand fatigue anyways.
Yes.
It's not worth it.
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I played JaKaTaK in HotS beta and he was pretty bad. The core or his other improvement stuff he came up with didn't seem to help him before he rage quit without gg. Most good players I know use either grid or standard layout with slight modifications.
That's what I thought. He's all high and mighty "herp derp follow my quick step guide of building zealots, lots of zealots. WHAT you want to build stalkers, oh my word but you aren't good enough to! Oh i'm only plat because I haven't the skill to use my The Core well enough. Ladder rankings mean nothing, people that can't play the game might understand it very well!"

On that last note, I think everyone who is not a professional (not even GM) doesn't understand the game 'well'.
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I know missions can be replayed, but when I finish the WoL campagain, can I then replay missions but have all the researched tech/units still unlocked ?
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