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wowow only played one match so far but i can't believe I never made a custom hotkey setup before.

everything is just so fast and convenient now. FF to build a hatchery = fastest Hatchery placement ever same with DD for a Spire. Like I said all my upgrades are on QWE and all unit abilities are FDR. makes everything so homogeneous and easy to use.
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wowow only played one match so far but i can't believe I never made a custom hotkey setup before.

everything is just so fast and convenient now. FF to build a hatchery = fastest Hatchery placement ever same with DD for a Spire. Like I said all my upgrades are on QWE and all unit abilities are FDR. makes everything so homogeneous and easy to use.

Hmm.

How about hot keying your units and buildings?
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Maybe once i get into platinum i can start using custom hotkeys. If i try it right now i feel like it will just complicate things for me
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Hmm.

How about hot keying your units and buildings?

What do you mean? of course I hotkey my units, and I'm just starting to hotkey my Evo chamber/Spire for upgrades
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Maybe once i get into platinum i can start using custom hotkeys. If i try it right now i feel like it will just complicate things for me

Just got my first ranked win with them after playing 1 AI game and one unranked match. won them all. right now it does require a sec to think about what I hotkeyed everything to, but I can remember it all and I'm sure it will quickly become instantaneous. But yeah it can definitely wait, I don't think this will make me a drastically better player (ex. Jakatak). It's just for comfort and convenience, your core mechanics and strategies are vastly more important.
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While I don't necessarily agree with JakaTaK's opinions and views, I do think the underlying concept is solid. I even use the concept for key binding other games such as world of warcraft.

Take a spreadsheet and give each key you press a difficulty indicator of how hard it is to press rapidly. Make a list of every command you can give, then color coordinate similar abilities that are often pressed in succession. After doing that, assign your most important and frequently pressed abilities to the keys that are easiest to press. Keep in mind the other keys you need to press in coorilation, then finish laying everything out. In relation to starcraft, ctrl and shift are the most frequently pressed buttons, they also can't be rebound. It makes sense to use the thumb to press them.

For most people, this is more work to do or adjust too for any game. However, if your looking to develop efficient keybinds, it's the best system I know of.

Most SC2 pros carry over from Broodwars or Warcraft 3. The hundred of hours of muscle memory they have already developed is extremely hard to change. Even if another system is better, the amount of time and work it requires to change is not worth it. Especially when that downtime results in a loss of income.

At some point, it's better to get used to the key binds you have than continually change them.. I think that's the #1 reason JakaTaK isn't doing well on the ladder.
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I would personally not recommend the core, it seems too... weird for me... I don't like having my thumb on shift. (I also hated the way camera hotkeys worked, forced you to center on a building. Maybe I want to hotkey empty space for later reference? Ever think of that stupid Jakatak?).

Each hotkey profile has 2 cameras that do not use alt to set (alt centers on selected unit). These hotkeys are specifically for that purpose. It's also quite easy to unbind alt as the center on location and have all cameras freely set depending on what your looking at. In the end, I found centering for my hatcheries was faster.

On a side note, if your considering changing your hotkeys, I'd recommend doing it sooner rather than later. The more hours you put into playing, the more that muscle memory builds and it becomes harder to change.
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Are there any protoss players that stream and give explainations while streaming?!

http://www.twitch.tv/whitera

My favorite protoss to watch. He doesn't always explain what he's doing, but he often gives insight about what he's thinking.
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Update: Finally played a Masters. #1 in my division by a decent margin, but I worry if I get too much TvP I may lose my edge.
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So you guys wouldnt suggest using GRID hotkeys for protoss?

EDIT: so i tried it and oh how confusing it is!!!
Edited by Costfree - 3/27/13 at 6:31am
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