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Originally Posted by AlexNJ View Post

Why the hell didn't he have something out by 6 minutes :|

He didn't have vision of his low-ground , i obviously did a lot of mistakes this game too (being supply blocked long , losing queen stuipidly etc. Anyway we both kind of played that game terribly.

He didn't have vision of that proxy hatch by 5:30 minutes when it finished and crawlers were half finished, his only mistake was going for mines instead of tanks then he might have had a chance.
Edited by jellybeans69 - 5/28/13 at 12:50am
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Sorry, I just usually dont see weird plays like that in gold, good move though taking the proxy hatch in his natural
   
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Y terran u go greedy cc first on highground?


That's weird, my experience with playing this map against platinum opponents on ladder was that everyone went for 1 base rushes and proxies. This just seems like a terrible map against those kinds of plays as zerg. Then again I know my biggest problem right now is my scouting. Regardless, this took first place as my veto.
     
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That's weird, my experience with playing this map against platinum opponents on ladder was that everyone went for 1 base rushes and proxies. This just seems like a terrible map against those kinds of plays as zerg. Then again I know my biggest problem right now is my scouting. Regardless, this took first place as my veto.

Well he didn't anything particularly wrong he did scout 15 hatch on my nat , i just dropped pool and sent scouting drone + 2 extra drones for spines probably the reason he was not expecting it, the biggest mistake was not getting a tank but widow mines. And yes this is one of my worst maps , due to it being so easy to proxy as toss (drop pylon at top of rocks near nat happens so bloody often f.e)
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Well he didn't anything particularly wrong he did scout 15 hatch on my nat , i just dropped pool and sent scouting drone + 2 extra drones for spines probably the reason he was not expecting it, the biggest mistake was not getting a tank but widow mines. And yes this is one of my worst maps , due to it being so easy to proxy as toss (drop pylon at top of rocks near nat happens so bloody often f.e)

I mean that I've literally not played one game against a player that actually attempted any kind of macro, like your terran opponent. Either they try to cheese and immediately block the bridge against counterattacks on failure, or they block with first building and hunt for overlords to deny scouting. I actually like the proxy hatch at opponents natural on this map very much, as it can be used effectively against all the aforementioned plays.

I've also never gotten a ZvZ on this map, which leads me to think that most zergs have it vetoed.
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I mean that I've literally not played one game against a player that actually attempted any kind of macro, like your terran opponent. Either they try to cheese and immediately block the bridge against counterattacks on failure, or they block with first building and hunt for overlords to deny scouting. I actually like the proxy hatch at opponents natural on this map very much, as it can be used effectively against all the aforementioned plays.

I've also never gotten a ZvZ on this map, which leads me to think that most zergs have it vetoed.

I have gotten quite a few ZvZ's in this map, and i rarely see cheeses except for some sneaky pylon or canonrush
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I have gotten quite a few ZvZ's in this map, and i rarely see cheeses except for some sneaky pylon or canonrush

Same here. I believe it is league dependent.
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Same here. I believe it is league dependent.

I don't know, jellybeans69 has said he's platinum (EU server?) and I'm platinum on NA server. My opponents are typically platinum and occasionally gold/diamond.
     
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I don't know, jellybeans69 has said he's platinum (EU server?) and I'm platinum on NA server. My opponents are typically platinum and occasionally gold/diamond.

Indeed i am Plat , i mostly play against plats only (sometimes last seasons diamonds) and once a master.
Chance to get that map and ZvZ is aprox 1/18 so unless you play alot or "get lucky" with getting this map and enemy a Zerg the chance is rather low.
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Maybe it has changed in the last two weeks then but I play masters and high mmr plats on eu and never get cheesed. Diversity is a good thing.
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