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It took me a few games to figure out but is pretty simple afterwards. Minerals are spent on building defensive units and econ (workers trained at CC/hatchery/nexus), while workers mine gas to be used for sends (units trained from other buildings). You get income (minerals) for killing waves and sending units. Your goal is to have sufficient defense against waves and sends from the other team, while increasing econ to send more units to them.

I suggest you start out by looking at some of the build orders here: http://squadtd.com/threads/2-xx-sp33ds-guide-to-good-builds.1538/


Sounds like Tanks , 3-way defensive games from WC3 tbh shouldn't bet all that different/hard to do.
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hey Been playing WOL since the beta, just casually does anyone have a lead on an inexpensive HOTS expansion? I'd really like it but only have about $20 to spend :-/

(I'm in the US and looking to 100% legal)
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£20 from cd key sites in the UK. They are fully legal afaik, you can probably find similar in the US but I highly doubt you'll get it for $20.

I'm looking for a cheaper price too actually smile.gif
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I just got my company to host a LAN for our employees, which means some Starcraft II action going on. thumb.gif
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DoomDash, that's awesome. Will all employees be required to bring their own accounts? Or will your company provide some accounts and then provide them as prizes later on? That would be pretty awesome! biggrin.gif
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Macro against terran eats my soul (actually playing against terran in general does that). I gladly play macro games against toss even though he rarely get's more than 3 bases up against me. tongue.gif

For myself, I love the long macro games. This betters my skill and allows me to play against a huge range situations. However losing a close nail biting game that was just exchange after exchange, leaves me a little dead inside, because I felt like if I just had a bit more workers, better scouting, or better counters I could have taken that game.

Quick question. Has the game change for ZvP from 14 pool into 15 hatch against Protoss? I have noticed a lot more Nexus first builds from Protoss, which is never a good idea against 14 pool.
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DoomDash, that's awesome. Will all employees be required to bring their own accounts? Or will your company provide some accounts and then provide them as prizes later on? That would be pretty awesome! biggrin.gif
For myself, I love the long macro games. This betters my skill and allows me to play against a huge range situations. However losing a close nail biting game that was just exchange after exchange, leaves me a little dead inside, because I felt like if I just had a bit more workers, better scouting, or better counters I could have taken that game.

Quick question. Has the game change for ZvP from 14 pool into 15 hatch against Protoss? I have noticed a lot more Nexus first builds from Protoss, which is never a good idea against 14 pool.

At plat I rarely get canon-rushed and I tend to do 3hatch before pool at times especially on Zerus Prime. I rarely open with pool first against toss. Also since DH 1-gate openers are much more common than FFE/nexus first.
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I just got my company to host a LAN for our employees, which means some Starcraft II action going on. thumb.gif

Sounds cool. What company is it and how did you get them to do it? Do they have many employees playing sc2?

Also,
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20130601T1510&p0=235&msg=+2013+WCS+KR+Season+1++Code+S%2C+Final

So hyped! I predict Innovation 4 - 1 Soulkey. I can see Soulkey taking a game or two from Innovation with some clever all-in, but over all Innovation just looks well too solid.
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At plat I rarely get canon-rushed and I tend to do 3hatch before pool at times especially on Zerus Prime. I rarely open with pool first against toss. Also since DH 1-gate openers are much more common than FFE/nexus first.

I still get cannon rushed at my second or my third in ZvP Diamond. I heard Masters is a lot of 1 Gate/Core into Expo into heavy Gateway pressure. I had a Protoss take a game off me last night with that same build even after doing loads of economy damage to him. I felt taking a third was a bad move, because he hit me when I was still drone during the harassment. Also Warm Prisms are becoming quite famous lately, I feel like this is Naniwa's fault. XD
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I still get cannon rushed at my second or my third in ZvP Diamond. I heard Masters is a lot of 1 Gate/Core into Expo into heavy Gateway pressure. I had a Protoss take a game off me last night with that same build even after doing loads of economy damage to him. I felt taking a third was a bad move, because he hit me when I was still drone during the harassment. Also Warm Prisms are becoming quite famous lately, I feel like this is Naniwa's fault. XD

This is my experience as well in platinum. I see protoss use any chance they get to cannon the natural or third with FFE openings but have also seen more of gateway first into heavy early pressure.
     
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Talking about early pressure, I am enjoying the new patch with ZvZ. I am not a big fan of Mutalisk, because I miss the days of StarCraft 1's Mutalisks. Though I think I understand the current ZvZ matchup pretty well. I believe straight up Roach vs X is quite good again like the days of Wings of Liberty. Specially considering Mass Zergling into Roaches and/or few Mutalisks into Roaches is a good tech switch. However this needs to be done with heavy aggression. What are other's thoughts on ZvZ right now?
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