Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › [Official] Starcraft 2 Strategy & Discussion Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Official] Starcraft 2 Strategy & Discussion Thread - Page 2306

post #23051 of 25319
are there any chances that blizzard will implement more CPU cores to next expo?
post #23052 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by EliteReplay View Post

are there any chances that blizzard will implement more CPU cores to next expo?
There is always a chance. However I highly, highly doubt it because it would warrant a pretty major engine tweak.
Define
(20 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.3GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX 6GB @ 1500MHz 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 650 Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Parasound Zdac TP-LINK Archer T9E  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
4x WD Red 3TB in RAID5 ESXi 6.5 
  hide details  
Reply
Define
(20 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.3GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX 6GB @ 1500MHz 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 650 Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Parasound Zdac TP-LINK Archer T9E  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
4x WD Red 3TB in RAID5 ESXi 6.5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23053 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by twerk View Post

There is always a chance. However I highly, highly doubt it because it would warrant a pretty major engine tweak.

Depends on how the engine itself is made. I have no insight on it whatsoever, but it might just be the case of changing a single variable smile.gif
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23054 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by ronnin426850 View Post

Depends on how the engine itself is made. I have no insight on it whatsoever, but it might just be the case of changing a single variable smile.gif
Due to the way the SC2 engine works (lock-step) it would take a lot of work, to the point that you may as well just make a new engine entirely.

Multithreading can introduce random occurrences and deviations due to the way that the thread scheduling will now occur. You can introduce synchronisation mechanisms but really you won't gain much performance and it'll be an absolute pain to work with, because while the synchronisation is happening all threads have to wait for the currently working threads to finish.

There is an article here which goes more in depth. It's about Age of Empires but the exact same principle applies.
http://zoo.cs.yale.edu/classes/cs538/readings/papers/terrano_1500arch.pdf
Define
(20 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.3GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX 6GB @ 1500MHz 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 650 Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Parasound Zdac TP-LINK Archer T9E  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
4x WD Red 3TB in RAID5 ESXi 6.5 
  hide details  
Reply
Define
(20 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.3GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX 6GB @ 1500MHz 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 650 Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Parasound Zdac TP-LINK Archer T9E  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
4x WD Red 3TB in RAID5 ESXi 6.5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23055 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by twerk View Post

Due to the way the SC2 engine works (lock-step) it would take a lot of work, to the point that you may as well just make a new engine entirely.

Multithreading can introduce random occurrences and deviations due to the way that the thread scheduling will now occur. You can introduce synchronisation mechanisms but really you won't gain much performance and it'll be an absolute pain to work with, because while the synchronisation is happening all threads have to wait for the currently working threads to finish.

There is an article here which goes more in depth. It's about Age of Empires but the exact same principle applies.
http://zoo.cs.yale.edu/classes/cs538/readings/papers/terrano_1500arch.pdf

Thanks! Very interesting smile.gif
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
My Rig
(14 items)
 
Ex-wife's Rig
(15 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 4460 AsRock H81M-DG4 Sapphire Rx470 Platinum KVR 1600 16Gb 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2x Seagate 3Tb Samsung 850 EVO 120 Scythe Ninja 3 Rev.B Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Fujitsu Siemens A17-2A Logitech K280e SuperFlower SF-550K12XP Thermaltake Versa H25 
MouseAudio
Logitech G402 Sony MDR XD150 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Athlon 750K 4.0Ghz AsRock FM2A75 Pro4+ Sapphire R9 270X Dual-X Kingston 2x4Gb 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 850 EVO 120  Western Digital 320Gb LiteON DVD-RW CoolerMaster Hyper Z600 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 Pro x64 Toshiba 32" FullHD TV Logitech FSP Hexa 550 
CaseMouse
DeLUX Logitech 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23056 of 25319
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twerk View Post

Due to the way the SC2 engine works (lock-step) it would take a lot of work, to the point that you may as well just make a new engine entirely.

Multithreading can introduce random occurrences and deviations due to the way that the thread scheduling will now occur. You can introduce synchronisation mechanisms but really you won't gain much performance and it'll be an absolute pain to work with, because while the synchronisation is happening all threads have to wait for the currently working threads to finish.

There is an article here which goes more in depth. It's about Age of Empires but the exact same principle applies.
http://zoo.cs.yale.edu/classes/cs538/readings/papers/terrano_1500arch.pdf

Gasp!! Lurker!

Welcome in. smile.gif
Behind the Curve
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4570 GA-Z87-D3H MSI GTX 980ti Gaming 6G Adata green special DDR3 1333 4x 4GB (16GB kit) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda Samsung DVD+RW CM 212 Windows 8.1 pro 64bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 34" 21:9 LG 23" 16:9 DELL!!! Corsair TX750w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM 692 with window Razer-LACHESIS Razer-Sphex Pad Logitech 5.1 surround 
  hide details  
Reply
Behind the Curve
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4570 GA-Z87-D3H MSI GTX 980ti Gaming 6G Adata green special DDR3 1333 4x 4GB (16GB kit) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda Samsung DVD+RW CM 212 Windows 8.1 pro 64bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 34" 21:9 LG 23" 16:9 DELL!!! Corsair TX750w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM 692 with window Razer-LACHESIS Razer-Sphex Pad Logitech 5.1 surround 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23057 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti!! View Post

Gasp!! Lurker!

Welcome in. smile.gif
I do lurk here quite a lot. biggrin.gif

I don't play SC2 that much anymore, mainly just 2v2's. I used to be masters Protoss back in WoL but I just haven't had the time since HotS came out. Laddering is also too stressful and I don't really find it fun anymore.
Define
(20 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.3GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX 6GB @ 1500MHz 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 650 Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Parasound Zdac TP-LINK Archer T9E  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
4x WD Red 3TB in RAID5 ESXi 6.5 
  hide details  
Reply
Define
(20 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 4.3GHz Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H ASUS GeForce GTX 980 Ti STRIX 6GB @ 1500MHz 2x8GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 @ 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB Crucial MX100 512GB Noctua NH-U14S 3x Noctua NF-A14 FLX 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Dell U2713HM Dell U2312HM Ducky Shine 3 Year of the Snake (MX Brown) 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W Fractal Design Define R5 Black Mionix Naos 7000 SteelSeries QcK 
AudioAudioAudioOther
Sennheiser HD 650 Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Parasound Zdac TP-LINK Archer T9E  
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E5-2620 v4 @ 3GHz Matrox G200eH2 4x8GB Kingston Dual Rank ECC DDR4 @ 2133MHz 2x Samsung PM863 120GB in RAID1 
Hard DriveOS
4x WD Red 3TB in RAID5 ESXi 6.5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #23058 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by twerk View Post

I do lurk here quite a lot. biggrin.gif

I don't play SC2 that much anymore, mainly just 2v2's. I used to be masters Protoss back in WoL but I just haven't had the time since HotS came out. Laddering is also too stressful and I don't really find it fun anymore.

same here, i was master back on wol... i havent touch that much HOST just follow tournaments from time to time.
post #23059 of 25319
No stress for me, because I am safely in the Bronze League. I just have fun. I also found Husky's Bronze League heroes, which is awesome. After Episode 60 I could not breathe I was laughing so hard. I submitted one of my flawless matches as well.

Overall, Starcraft II does not really take much in terms of computer resources. I have a mid-range graphics card and an old, cheap CPU, and I can run it maxed out. Anyone with an i3 or better and a $100+ graphics card should be fine. I do not see why multi-core utilization would be necessary. Unlike, say Crysis 3, which makes my radiator boiling hot.
post #23060 of 25319
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by twerk View Post

I do lurk here quite a lot. biggrin.gif

I don't play SC2 that much anymore, mainly just 2v2's. I used to be masters Protoss back in WoL but I just haven't had the time since HotS came out. Laddering is also too stressful and I don't really find it fun anymore.

So many people agree. Laddering is stressful if you are trying to get as high as you can and stay there. I didnt ladder in sc1 for this reason. I don't like to be told I'm doing worse via dropping rank and league. I just want to have fun. Sc1 abolished the ladder ranking system and people just played melee maps and had fun. The ones who wanted a ladder system moded their game to support it. I only played melee and had a blast.
Behind the Curve
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4570 GA-Z87-D3H MSI GTX 980ti Gaming 6G Adata green special DDR3 1333 4x 4GB (16GB kit) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda Samsung DVD+RW CM 212 Windows 8.1 pro 64bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 34" 21:9 LG 23" 16:9 DELL!!! Corsair TX750w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM 692 with window Razer-LACHESIS Razer-Sphex Pad Logitech 5.1 surround 
  hide details  
Reply
Behind the Curve
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-4570 GA-Z87-D3H MSI GTX 980ti Gaming 6G Adata green special DDR3 1333 4x 4GB (16GB kit) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda Samsung DVD+RW CM 212 Windows 8.1 pro 64bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 34" 21:9 LG 23" 16:9 DELL!!! Corsair TX750w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
CM 692 with window Razer-LACHESIS Razer-Sphex Pad Logitech 5.1 surround 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: PC Gaming
Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › [Official] Starcraft 2 Strategy & Discussion Thread