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So new game timer buffed Oracles massively. If you're Protoss and you see Ultras, just get a few oracles and lol as they burst down everything with spell damage that ignores armor values including bases. Yes, that's right they even burst down bases now.

1st time I saw it used against me my jaw dropped as my hive, roach warren and ultra cavern evaporated and my 7 ultras got wrecked in seconds.
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So new game timer buffed Oracles massively. If you're Protoss and you see Ultras, just get a few oracles and lol as they burst down everything with spell damage that ignores armor values including bases. Yes, that's right they even burst down bases now.

1st time I saw it used against me my jaw dropped as my hive, roach warren and ultra cavern evaporated and my 7 ultras got wrecked in seconds.

That sounds pretty cool actually heh. Have you tried the new oracle spell? It's pretty cool (the one that traps units).

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That sounds pretty cool actually heh. Have you tried the new oracle spell? It's pretty cool (the one that traps units).

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Not yet, was eating dinner. Need to relax a little, watch some tv. After that I'll give it a try. Stasis ward does seem pretty fun though. Would be fun for perma stun locking units in a base race.

I wonder if it works on larva...
post #24714 of 25319
So I stared using stasis ward, it's hilarious on mineral lines and decent to cut off any troops who think they can attack into my carriers. Before I have 4 carriers I dont use stasis ward though. Depending on the MU I'm typically opening FFE, mass cannons+msc+air ups. I don't even bother with warp gates, 8 Oracles asap, I go do some terrible, terrible damage while massing carriers+voids behind it, sometomes phoenix if there's a need for them over void rays. It's disgustingly powerful.
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So I stared using stasis ward, it's hilarious on mineral lines and decent to cut off any troops who think they can attack into my carriers. Before I have 4 carriers I dont use stasis ward though. Depending on the MU I'm typically opening FFE, mass cannons+msc+air ups. I don't even bother with warp gates, 8 Oracles asap, I go do some terrible, terrible damage while massing carriers+voids behind it, sometomes phoenix if there's a need for them over void rays. It's disgustingly powerful.



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Best meme ever, lol. I havent gotten to try it vs terran yet but Im assuming 8 oracle opener would be devastating to them too. Just burst down ccs with a stasis ward to stop repairs. If marines come, then 8 oracles will murder them too.

Last game I took down 2 hatcheries before flying off thanks to mutas, had 2 carriers push immediately with 2/2/1 and more rallied to the carriers. Kept the oracles alive all game and just kept sniping buildings, I don't even bother attacking workers with them.

Zerg tried to counter, cannon wall+oracles flying back dealt with that easily. Didn't even use Photon Overcharge.
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Best meme ever, lol. I havent gotten to try it vs terran yet but Im assuming 8 oracle opener would be devastating to them too. Just burst down ccs with a stasis ward to stop repairs. If marines come, then 8 oracles will murder them too.

Last game I took down 2 hatcheries before flying off thanks to mutas, had 2 carriers push immediately with 2/2/1 and more rallied to the carriers. Kept the oracles alive all game and just kept sniping buildings, I don't even bother attacking workers with them.

Zerg tried to counter, cannon wall+oracles flying back dealt with that easily. Didn't even use Photon Overcharge.

Yeah I just made that meme biggrin.gif. I had some master player who went mass oracles vs me as an opener... and even though my build normally shuts down oracle openers, I wasn't expecting that many and I could not deal with it. I think there is potential to a bunch of oracles, assuming they don't get scouted and it's at least some what a surprise. You would have loved the previous patch since carriers had the faster build time, making it pretty easy and safeish to transition into them. As you can see from the blue post even with the reverted carrier time they are still considered a bit too powerful, so enjoy it while it lasts.
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In theory, not well xD. Well until you start money shotting with ravagers. I think the main issue might be affording that unit comp - or finding an opponent who doesn't just die to LMB before further transition is needed. But that's just me, I play super aggressive and in incements, that unit comp seems like you'd want to be more defensive.

Yea, aside from ling run bys and burrow infestor play you have to be defensive with fungal, spore, and bane hits until ultras get out. Another thing EVERYONE forgets is bane drops. Which now are more difficult that ever since they nerfed the overlord drop upgrade to oblivion by making each overlord HAVE to be upgraded to drop individually.
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Yeah I just made that meme biggrin.gif. I had some master player who went mass oracles vs me as an opener... and even though my build normally shuts down oracle openers, I wasn't expecting that many and I could not deal with it. I think there is potential to a bunch of oracles, assuming they don't get scouted and it's at least some what a surprise. You would have loved the previous patch since carriers had the faster build time, making it pretty easy and safeish to transition into them. As you can see from the blue post even with the reverted carrier time they are still considered a bit too powerful, so enjoy it while it lasts.

One play that totally countered me was a ravager timing, made my cannons look silly. Guess I need to start using Oracle Chargelot Archon.

Getting tired of the terran gimmicks though, with the bigger bases I keep seeing a random factory getting sneaked into a blind spot. -.- Still have a ways to go to get LotV figured out...but yeah mass Oracles is absolutely devastating.
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Yea, aside from ling run bys and burrow infestor play you have to be defensive with fungal, spore, and bane hits until ultras get out. Another thing EVERYONE forgets is bane drops. Which now are more difficult that ever since they nerfed the overlord drop upgrade to oblivion by making each overlord HAVE to be upgraded to drop individually.

Why not just Nydus+queens? Ovie drops are for chumps xD.

Was playing an Archon game, the "daimond random" player kept trying to pre split the Ultras and was waiting faaaaar too long to attack because of it. I just kept thinging ARG STAPH. Maybe I'm weird but I 1-a and then at the last second I split, I barely use control groups for units unless they're casters, I just make adjustments to my unit formations on the fly.

I figure the strategy works irl with cavalry charges and Ultralisks are essentially cavalry so why not run in and fold the ultras out to the sides, forming a concave just before you hit the enemy force? I do the same thing with lings and chargelots.

On another note my PvP is utterly devastating, I'm tearing apart good koean players so fast and easily.

I open FFE but instead of normal gateway pressure I cannon rush while macroing hard behind it since the opponent can't pressure my base if they want to not lose their main. Typically the cannons win the game, when they don't I unleash the Dank Templar xD Or Oracles. Even Photon Overcharge isn't enough to save them and it doesn't matter if they know its coming or not. Guess that's what happens when you have 100 apm while cannon rushing and a 150 mineral avg float with less than 20 seconds supply blocked. It's just super efficient. I don't even send the msc for PO to their base, it stays at home as a "just in case" button.

PvP cannon rushing with the economy changes got a massive buff, especially since it's no longer really a cheese since you're macroing behind it on 2 bases and still getting tech.
Edited by DIYDeath - 10/23/15 at 12:02pm
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