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I'm too poor for LotV at launch, and with Fallout 4 I'm going to prioritize that first anyway. Just takes so much effort to give SC2 the attention it deserves.. it's SC2's biggest strength and biggest flaw.
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Why do you think chain fungals is bad vs skytoss?

Because fungal has a slow projectile speed and things like Oracles and Phoenix buffer for the Void Rays and Carriers. It's really, really hard to hit reasonably controlled, fast units which threaten your infestors while the rest deal the sustained and threatening dps to your main army.
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Because fungal has a slow projectile speed and things like Oracles and Phoenix buffer for the Void Rays and Carriers. It's really, really hard to hit reasonably controlled, fast units which threaten your infestors while the rest deal the sustained and threatening dps to your main army.

What was your unit composition?
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Because fungal has a slow projectile speed and things like Oracles and Phoenix buffer for the Void Rays and Carriers. It's really, really hard to hit reasonably controlled, fast units which threaten your infestors while the rest deal the sustained and threatening dps to your main army.

Ideally you want to be camping next to spores, and you need hydras or corrupter to threaten the phoenix from running in. Some vipers for pulls is also good.

Infestors are part of the solution though. You can't beat air toss with pure brute force.
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Because fungal has a slow projectile speed and things like Oracles and Phoenix buffer for the Void Rays and Carriers. It's really, really hard to hit reasonably controlled, fast units which threaten your infestors while the rest deal the sustained and threatening dps to your main army.

Infestor + Hydra to fend off the flies?
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Infestor + Hydra to fend off the flies?

Phoenix and Oracles screw over anything that isn't citical mass hydra which takes a lot of bases worth of gas and larva to achieve...doesn't happen vs oracles and phoenix controlling the map.
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Ideally you want to be camping next to spores, and you need hydras or corrupter to threaten the phoenix from running in. Some vipers for pulls is also good.

Infestors are part of the solution though. You can't beat air toss with pure brute force.

I just think the hots economy makes this bs because of mass cannons. It's not an issue in lotv as much because you can actually get into the protoss position before they turtle so hard that it can't be broken. Plus PB kills 1/2 that composition.
Edited by DIYDeath - 11/5/15 at 5:31pm
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3 base or even 4 base against skytoss should be no issue.
Queens and spores against oracles and phoenix. Later Hydras.

Phoenix are for scouting, minor harass and even more important to prevent mutas. But if he is able to prevent you from taking a 4. base then there is something wrong.
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Updated tile sets are worse than the older ones, see for yourselves:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/19938589/legacy-of-the-void-brings-new-and-updated-tilesets-02-11-2015

The new ones look cool though.
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Updated tile sets are worse than the older ones, see for yourselves:

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/19938589/legacy-of-the-void-brings-new-and-updated-tilesets-02-11-2015

The new ones look cool though.

They are less detailed, but I wouldn't say they look worse. Simpler terrain could be a big improvement. You have to admit that this is a very poor blend, despite being more detailed:
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/x2/X2L94PDVQRAU1446062485195.jpg

This is much more realistic:
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/ia/IASWEQKII8SH1446062513456.jpg
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They are less detailed, but I wouldn't say they look worse. Simpler terrain could be a big improvement. You have to admit that this is a very poor blend, despite being more detailed:
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/x2/X2L94PDVQRAU1446062485195.jpg

This is much more realistic:
https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/ia/IASWEQKII8SH1446062513456.jpg

Yeah the snow tile-set is an exception. The fire set however is significantly worse in the updated version.
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