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Originally Posted by Tchernobyl View Post
Oh cool I didn't know it'd be up already and free.

edit: oh crap only the first game of each match up is free
Doomdash you got another magic link to VODs?
Edited by thiru - 10/18/10 at 8:15am
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Oh cool I didn't know it'd be up already and free.
just the first match of each set it seems, which sucks :/
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Originally Posted by Lucas Lamer View Post
You got to zerg tier 3 against an MMM play? I think your opponent was probably a little slow on the draw. From what I've seen MMM works best against Z if it forces a climactic showdown earlier than tier 3. IMO MMM also shouldn't expand beyond the natural expo. MMM is not a strategy designed for a long game or a techy game or risky expos. Z is at a terrible disadvantage vs. MMM without at least one expo, so MMM should aggressively and promptly attack all Z expos and make sure the T expo is easily defensible. If Z goes tech that should be like a dog whistle for an MMM player saying "ATTACK NOW". He probably shouldn't have screwed around with vikings either. That just detracted from the game-ending potential of the T ground army.
Yes, I did. I was actually rather slow as well and I could have gotten there faster, but, I was working on my macro and getting some defense. He actually had 2 exp+natural. He took an exp beside his base(the one with destructible rocks) and took a gold one using PF. His big mistake was not making missile turrets to defend his PFs from my mutalisks. I also had three bases and was pumping troops like crazy. I don't agree with you, MMM can be used anytime during the game, although, it's better early on, but, if you watched selecT vs. kikiwaki(sp?), he was using MMM throughout the game and took down all 4 colossus+zealots+stalker army quite easily. It's only risky mid to end game since marines can hit air, but, not marauders, so, any air units such as banshees, mutalisks, VRs, carriers, bc, etc.... can easily take it out, but, on the ground, it can be hard to stop without storm, blings, FG, etc.... Also, I teched up to tier 2 and mutalisks and had almost three bases at this point even before I was attacked. His biggest mistake was trying to use dropships which carry only so many units which meant that my slings+blings easily overwhelmed his forces. Also, he wasn't scouting much from what I could tell and didn't continually try to harass other than the dropship. When I saw he had that gold expo with an MMM ball and a PF, I decided to take the plunge to take it down otherwise I was trying for a nice worm behind his cc. After taking his expo down, I took down some of his SCV for his other expo but retreated when his vikings came. Also, personally, I believe you can survive against MMM ball on your natural. The key is to build a hatchery in your base and to mass slings+blings to counter his first attack then expand afterwards.

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Voids just got nerfed. They should be pretty easy to kill these days. 2 queens and couple of hydras well-microed should be able to take down void rush. I hate how most of my matches are not ZvZ, my worst matchup.
I find queens are pretty weak vs. VR. They only do, what 9 damage and only do so much before a VR fully charges and wipes the queen out. Mutalisks with their speed work best against VRs for me at least

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void are still not some easy ass unit to deal with lol they still do alot of dmg
Agree, but, they definitely got a bit easier to deal with.

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I think ppl also need to realize that if they have void rays, they have no ground units.
You'll be surprised. Last game I played against protoss, he had 4 VRs supported by zealots+stalkers. I was able to take his ground army just fine, but, wasn't ready for VRs and thus I lost

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Oh cool I didn't know it'd be up already and free.

edit: oh crap only the first game of each match up is free
Doomdash you got another magic link to VODs?
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Originally Posted by Tchernobyl View Post
just the first match of each set it seems, which sucks :/
Too bad
    
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I just got zergling rushed by a platinum random player. I was waiting for the zerglings to wall off with a cannon, but they didn't come so I thought hey maybe he backed off (since I scouted his early pool)... bad mistake, they got in and got at least 5 probes. Then he sniped my expand (didn't have time to cancel ugh).

But even though I lost probes and 400 minerals in the destroyed nexus, my economy was superior to his again within minutes and I still destroyed him (fool didn't expand a 2nd time).

The funny part is that when I started winning he said (and I replied):
-I hate colossus
-MOAR SIX POOL
-LOL that wasn't a 6 pool
-10 pool whatever it screwed your economy
-not really

I checked the replay and it was a 7 pool
Edited by thiru - 10/18/10 at 9:20am
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Last time I got the VODs on the forums here: http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/

but it looks like they are down for some maintenance.
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Last time I got the VODs on the forums here: http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/

but it looks like they are down for some maintenance.
Thanks I'll check that out when it's back online.

I swear there's something fishy in the ladder. People cheese or use gimmicky tactics in bronze, that's a given, but I didn't see ANY of that in silver. Now that I'm playing against gold and platinum every 3rd player is doing it. Just got DT rushed.

I scouted his walling off so I thought void rays and I busted his backdoor rock in Shakuras and I see a Dark shrine instead :/ Retreated with FF, built cannons but not before he destroyed my nexus but I had an expansion so I won anyway.
Edited by thiru - 10/18/10 at 9:52am
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Last time I got the VODs on the forums here: http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/

but it looks like they are down for some maintenance.
Someone needs to be the hero who uploads the HD VODs..This waiting is tempting my credit card .

Edit: Found the videos, but they aren't HD: http://www.justin.tv/seriouscallersonly/b/272102338
Edited by cory1234 - 10/18/10 at 10:12am
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Awesome!
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Someone needs to be the hero who uploads the HD VODs..This waiting is tempting my credit card .

Edit: Found the videos, but they aren't HD: http://www.justin.tv/seriouscallersonly/b/272102338
Thanks, while not HD, they aren't as blocky as the GomTV ones
    
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Just played my first games since the 1.2 patch.
Lots more ZvZ matchups. I guess people are thinking that Zerg is a much better race with the upgrades it got.

Beat a Terran player at which point he told me
"Blizzard made Zerg invincible so you pretty much suck."
Then proceeded to call me a bunch of names and insult my mother LOL.
I told him to try expanding to more than one base next time, since I had 3 Hatch with about 25 drones each when I destroyed his Bio Ball.
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