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Haha, do you win? The problem is that I'm not playing against silver, my opponents are rarely below diamond. We can play anytime though in custom games and you can always steamroll me playing terran.
Yeah I do (only lost 1 game out of like 6-10 games vs plats). Although a lot of them were stupid cheesy/all in/something stupid games and 3 were playing off race (1 did it by accident).
The one that did beat me did a good push with marine/tank and caught my army in a horrible spot and I didn't retreat.
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Well, I admit I haven't faced any truly skillful FF micro yet, but IMO you make P's task sound a little easier than it is. If I have a big pack of slings, speedbanelings and roaches hovering in the neighborhood it's pretty dangerous for stalkers to venture out of the ramp and try to take the natural expo. I have munched a number of P natural expos in bloody mid-game battles with sling/s-bling/roach forces. Against a good player I'd probably need to distract him with some muta action to avoid the FF blocking me. Obviously I'll need to keep improving my tactics to beat the better players.
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Bronze *cough*, though I am ranked #1 in my division and am currently winning 85-90% of my matches. I pretty much only lose if I get lazy or try an experiment that fizzles. Should be in silver soon. I look forward to getting my ass kicked in the new league. Facing some decent FF micro will be an interesting experience. I'll have to adapt.
People in bronze are terrible.. at least the people in silver are more or less trying to get better.
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im sorry but bronze is a joke,i was number 4 in bronze for a better part of the first month of sc2,its not a division to be proud of being top in,silver+ is where u acutally see strats and not random builds
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Well, I admit I haven't faced any truly skillful FF micro yet, but IMO you make P's task sound a little easier than it is. If I have a big pack of slings, speedbanelings and roaches hovering in the neighborhood it's pretty dangerous for stalkers to venture out of the ramp and try to take the natural expo. I have munched a number of P natural expos in bloody mid-game battles with sling/s-bling/roach forces. Against a good player I'd probably need to distract him with some muta action to avoid the FF blocking me. Obviously I'll need to keep improving my tactics to beat the better players.
Well, today I had a game against a protoss. He started the game trying to trap me in my base(can't recall if he succeeded). He eventually massed and attacked with 4 colossi, some zealots and maybe 14+ stalkers or so. I saw him coming and made more units. Used mutalisks on his colossi and then attacked his zealots+stalkers with a decent number of banelings+slings. Other than a couple of casulaty, he steamrolled right through them, used stalkers to kill my mutalisks and then took out my exp and my main For some strange reason, I didn't have a roach warren at all, same with a hydralisk den. I only had the pool, baneling nest and a spire since I was going to muta harass. Lesson learned- Scout more and tech up since a couple of slings+ultralisks with mutalisks would have been a good combo against his colossi and stalkers. A good player would build photo cannons around their cc's and throughout their base to prevent muta harass and then focus all his effort on taking down your attack followed by a counter-attack!

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Yeah I do (only lost 1 game out of like 6-10 games vs plats). Although a lot of them were stupid cheesy/all in/something stupid games and 3 were playing off race (1 did it by accident).
The one that did beat me did a good push with marine/tank and caught my army in a horrible spot and I didn't retreat.

People in bronze are terrible.. at least the people in silver are more or less trying to get better.
I haven't seen any tank use in silver, it's very disappointing. All my games lost were due to lack of scouting, so, when that terran attacked with 4 thors+16 marines+ 1 hellion, I only had slings+blings to counter and was taken off guard. Had I teched up to brood lords and made some roaches to counter thors, I would've taken that game easily. Did I ever mention I hate thors with a passion?
As for the league thing, yes, I agree. All the game I've had with bronze involved cheese of some kind whether it was VRs, PCs, etc.... It seems to be a common strategy to try and block the ramp to keep a zerg limited to 1 base.
    
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This push to 1700 went better than I thought...

1800!

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Did I ever mention I hate thors with a passion?
Check out the magic box trick, it's pretty nasty vs thors.
Edited by Lazorbeam - 10/19/10 at 6:51pm
    
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Remember kids: The number of the day is the number J.

Oh god I found the picture!


Edited by WTHbot - 10/19/10 at 6:59pm
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I played so much 1v1 during the Beta that I feel 1v1'd out... =[ Been stuck in gold forever since I barely play any 1v1s 18-10 games... It's placing me against 1200 rated diamond players currently though, so this is fun
Edited by vdek - 10/19/10 at 7:50pm
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This push to 1700 went better than I thought...

1800!



Check out the magic box trick, it's pretty nasty vs thors.
What race do you play? I'm almost to 1600, but I don't play a lot of 1v1s. I only have 80 wins or so.
We should practice sometime, and maybe do some funday mondays .
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This push to 1700 went better than I thought...

1800!



Check out the magic box trick, it's pretty nasty vs thors.
nice, that's the thing though. I read up on the magic box and was told to make them move to a certain location near the thor then press stop and then should spread out and attack almost negating the splash damage, however, I haven't had much luck implementing it into my games for some reason Thors are just so powerful when you consider their cost(300/250).
    
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nice, that's the thing though. I read up on the magic box and was told to make them move to a certain location near the thor then press stop and then should spread out and attack almost negating the splash damage, however, I haven't had much luck implementing it into my games for some reason Thors are just so powerful when you consider their cost(300/250).
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=145719

That thread explains the "magic box" pretty well.

Edit: pretty solid video demonstrating the idea:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SephyreS.../0/2nNBQTt0dVU

12 0/0 mutas vs 3 0/0 thors resulted in 3 dead thors with 8 mutas surviving.
Edited by burwij - 10/19/10 at 8:15pm
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Anyone know that commentator on youtube where his opening vids are blings chasing a marauder? "Don't leave me hanging... It's go time."
http://www.youtube.com/user/AskJoshy

Askjoshy
    
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