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You sack an overlord. Its super common. Also you can do bane/ling and get lair tech for overseers / an extra queen. If you are worried about banshee get a 3rd queen, for creep spread, transfusion, ect. Queens are decent against banshee, esp if you have an extra with trans.
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You sack an overlord. Its super common. Also you can do bane/ling and get lair tech for overseers / an extra queen. If you are worried about banshee get a 3rd queen, for creep spread, transfusion, ect. Queens are decent against banshee, esp if you have an extra with trans.
I sac plently of overlords for scouting purposes after I get the speed upgrade for them. What bugs me is without the upgrade they're so slow that they can't get to the enemy base fast enough to scout early pushes unless the enemy base is right next to yours. You need lair tech to enable the upgrade, which means you're back in the situation of having to expand and tech at the same time. Terran sees you doing that, you die if he has been building marines and marauders and wants a quick game. You might have enough banelings to survive the first wave, but the 2nd or 3rd wave will get you.
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You should:

A) Keep a ling outside his base / ramp to see if is coming.

B) Keep a ling at important watch towers.

If he starts coming, its easy to make enough to deal with it ( throw down spines ~, and cut drone / tech production ~ ). Zerg is a reactionary race, and believe me they are called that for a reason.

None of the Z's I play wait for OL speed for the sack.
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hi im a protoss player and i'm having a hard time beating diamond terran players. once they go MMMG and little by little push my base with siege thanks I can't do much at all. how can I counter this? HT get's pawned by ghost emp's
 
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hi im a protoss player and i'm having a hard time beating diamond terran players. once they go MMMG and little by little push my base with siege thanks I can't do much at all. how can I counter this? HT get's pawned by ghost emp's
When I played against some sick protoss players ( 2000+ ), they would hide their templars in a warp prism that was set to follow their troops. They would then drop them down one at a time to storm / eat emps. They also usually had some spread out in their army as well. Also, they would take the warp prism around ( it was LT that I recall the best ) LT, and put the templars on the high ground to feedback snipe ghosts. But, Colossus and Templars work wonders together. As the last page said, you probably want to go Colossus first, and get HT later.
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Macro better + drops

siege tanking marines are my favourite type to face in PvT. So far I've always been able to macro enough imortals and units to stop them from taking their third while getting mine. I also do a lot of drops in their natural or main base to either snipe out the natural cc with dt's or come in with blink stalkers. Yes sometimes leap frogging siege tanks gives me trouble, however if you scout well enough, it means before they can set up you rush in and intercept them. That usually gives me a victory in the mini battle. If not just be calm and keep on macroing, or start dropping and counter harassing.

There are a few different ways, it depend on how you want to play the game. Bottom line is still get the core mechanics and macro better. Scout them so you'll always have just enough to counter their numbers.
    
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Oh maaannn I just played a dozen 3v3s and 4v4s in which I teched to high templar every time and it is freaking epic
It's so effective in team games not only because you can tech relatively safely (well I can still defend myself since I start with 2->4gate) if your allies don't, but damn they're so friggin deadly because bigger armies can't move out of the way fast enough

With 8 high templars you can kill everything they can throw at you. And at our level (platinum/low diamond team league) they don't use ghosts in team games.
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You should:

A) Keep a ling outside his base / ramp to see if is coming.

B) Keep a ling at important watch towers.

If he starts coming, its easy to make enough to deal with it ( throw down spines ~, and cut drone / tech production ~ ). Zerg is a reactionary race, and believe me they are called that for a reason.

None of the Z's I play wait for OL speed for the sack.
Another tip is to count the front. Counting the front can be just as good as seeing the buildings.

For example, if you send a ling or two up his ramp and see marines only and no marauders, chances are it's a tech build. Which most likely leaves you with two options, mech-play or banshee.

if you do see marauders, that means he's teching slower, which gives you more time to prepare.

Day9 says to always count the front.
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