Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › [Official] Starcraft 2 Strategy & Discussion Thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Official] Starcraft 2 Strategy & Discussion Thread - Page 533

post #5321 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkknight512 View Post
You only need a fast dual core to max SC2, the game is only double threaded, at most you would *need* triple core. GTX 460 is kinda overkill for 1920x1080 as well.
It can use 3 cores. By your logic at most you would need a quad core.
Omicron Lyrae
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 BE @3.6 Asus M4A785TD-V EVO Sapphire HD5770 V2 OCZ 2x2GB Gold DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Sony Lightscribe DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64-bit AOC F22+ 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cherry Scissor Switch Flat Keyboard OCZ StealthXstream 600W Cooler Master Elite 334 Microsoft Sidewinder 
  hide details  
Reply
Omicron Lyrae
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 BE @3.6 Asus M4A785TD-V EVO Sapphire HD5770 V2 OCZ 2x2GB Gold DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Sony Lightscribe DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64-bit AOC F22+ 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cherry Scissor Switch Flat Keyboard OCZ StealthXstream 600W Cooler Master Elite 334 Microsoft Sidewinder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5322 of 25319
Having just watched the first game of the finals, I gotta say that I thought what the commentators said was interesting:
They talked about expanding at 15 for zerg and how it's a very risky move to do especially in the Korean ladder and in the first game, a 2 rax push with scvs and using mules to keep eco going was too much for Nestea to handle, can't wait to see other matches, although, I do wanna see some nestea matches first, I mean 2-0'd everyone and only lost one game to SlayersBoxer, must mean he's doing something right Hopefully, FD starts deciding to delay fast exp or at least gets pool such that its 15 pool 14 hatch so that he can hold off early pushes and doesn't lose out as early
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 2.40GHZ Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L MSI GTX570 @ stock Corsair 2GB DDR2 800MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate Barracuda 250GB Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung SW2494 24" Antec Earthpower 650W 
Case
Apevia X-Plorer 
  hide details  
Reply
    
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 2.40GHZ Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L MSI GTX570 @ stock Corsair 2GB DDR2 800MHz 
Hard DriveOSMonitorPower
Seagate Barracuda 250GB Windows 7 Professional 64bit Samsung SW2494 24" Antec Earthpower 650W 
Case
Apevia X-Plorer 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5323 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkknight512 View Post
You only need a fast dual core to max SC2, the game is only double threaded, at most you would *need* triple core. GTX 460 is kinda overkill for 1920x1080 as well.
I don't think a 460gtx is overkill. Check out Tom's hardware review where they display a very large amount of objects on the screen.

I know the game is only dual threaded, but for future proof sake with his budget it would be foolish to go with a dual core.
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Gigabyte UD3P EVGA 460 gtx 1gb SC 2x4 GB Corsair Vengance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS/40gb Kingston SSD/ 500g... Asus Dvd burner Ultra 120 Extreme Win 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung BX2450 Filco Mx Brown Corsair 650TX CM 690 II Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudio
G500 Razer Audio Technica M50s 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Gigabyte UD3P EVGA 460 gtx 1gb SC 2x4 GB Corsair Vengance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS/40gb Kingston SSD/ 500g... Asus Dvd burner Ultra 120 Extreme Win 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung BX2450 Filco Mx Brown Corsair 650TX CM 690 II Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudio
G500 Razer Audio Technica M50s 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5324 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThumperSD View Post
I took down the PDDs but his marine/banshees still owned me. A scan took out my obs.

What did your opponents do to stop this?
be aggressive with a few stalkers and force that PPD, and push out this is hard to do.

or sit in your base cannon up and tech to fast chargelots/storm, storm/feedback rapes rines and banshee
sig rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k 4.4ghz ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3) Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti SoC Patriot Viper DDR3 2x4gb 1600 MHZ CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
WD 500GB BLACK Samsung 840 Maxtor 320 GB Windows 7 Home Prenium 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS VS247 Samsung BX2431 Razer BlackWidow OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 2 600W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
COOLERMASTER HAF 922 Logitech G9X SteelSeries QcK Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality - Audio Techn... 
  hide details  
Reply
sig rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k 4.4ghz ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3) Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti SoC Patriot Viper DDR3 2x4gb 1600 MHZ CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
WD 500GB BLACK Samsung 840 Maxtor 320 GB Windows 7 Home Prenium 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS VS247 Samsung BX2431 Razer BlackWidow OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 2 600W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
COOLERMASTER HAF 922 Logitech G9X SteelSeries QcK Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality - Audio Techn... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5325 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbonerds View Post
be aggressive with a few stalkers and force that PPD, and push out this is hard to do.

or sit in your base cannon up and tech to fast chargelots/storm, storm/feedback rapes rines and banshee
Building cannons usually isn't a good idea. Your just giving your opponent map control by doing this, and tanks will roll you eventually.

I think the best way to stop that push would be to scout as often as possible, and force early pressure. You would be surprised what a single stalker can do if you chrono boost it. A good 3 warpgate rush can break many a terran; especially if they try to tech to banshee/raven.
Edited by cory1234 - 11/14/10 at 4:46pm
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Gigabyte UD3P EVGA 460 gtx 1gb SC 2x4 GB Corsair Vengance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS/40gb Kingston SSD/ 500g... Asus Dvd burner Ultra 120 Extreme Win 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung BX2450 Filco Mx Brown Corsair 650TX CM 690 II Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudio
G500 Razer Audio Technica M50s 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Gigabyte UD3P EVGA 460 gtx 1gb SC 2x4 GB Corsair Vengance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS/40gb Kingston SSD/ 500g... Asus Dvd burner Ultra 120 Extreme Win 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung BX2450 Filco Mx Brown Corsair 650TX CM 690 II Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudio
G500 Razer Audio Technica M50s 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5326 of 25319
Congrats cory1234, you are now 1337.
post #5327 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFan View Post
Having just watched the first game of the finals, I gotta say that I thought what the commentators said was interesting:
They talked about expanding at 15 for zerg and how it's a very risky move to do especially in the Korean ladder and in the first game, a 2 rax push with scvs and using mules to keep eco going was too much for Nestea to handle, can't wait to see other matches, although, I do wanna see some nestea matches first, I mean 2-0'd everyone and only lost one game to SlayersBoxer, must mean he's doing something right Hopefully, FD starts deciding to delay fast exp or at least gets pool such that its 15 pool 14 hatch so that he can hold off early pushes and doesn't lose out as early
He didn't lose any games to real boxer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cory1234 View Post
I don't think a 460gtx is overkill. Check out Tom's hardware review where they display a very large amount of objects on the screen.

I know the game is only dual threaded, but for future proof sake with his budget it would be foolish to go with a dual core.
It uses 3 cores.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...rcraft-2-use/2
Omicron Lyrae
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 BE @3.6 Asus M4A785TD-V EVO Sapphire HD5770 V2 OCZ 2x2GB Gold DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Sony Lightscribe DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64-bit AOC F22+ 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cherry Scissor Switch Flat Keyboard OCZ StealthXstream 600W Cooler Master Elite 334 Microsoft Sidewinder 
  hide details  
Reply
Omicron Lyrae
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Phenom II X3 720 BE @3.6 Asus M4A785TD-V EVO Sapphire HD5770 V2 OCZ 2x2GB Gold DDR3-1333 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB Sony Lightscribe DVD-RW Windows 7 Professional 64-bit AOC F22+ 1080p 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cherry Scissor Switch Flat Keyboard OCZ StealthXstream 600W Cooler Master Elite 334 Microsoft Sidewinder 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5328 of 25319
LoL, as a terran player myself, i find that there is NO WAY to beat a good zerg late game. The matchup consits of

Me turtling in my base doing a couple of harass/timing push

hellions - 2 roach stops this or queen blocking your ramp
banshee - maybe i'm doing this wrong but everytime i go for banshee i only kill 3-2 drones for 200 gas....
drops - LOL? ya right overlords all over the map/creep/ and mutas flying gaining map control.. its hard to do a drop nowadays...

Timing pushs works the best for me so far.. pushing out with mass rines with 2-1 tanks works but a ****load of banelings and sling own this...

now if i don't do anything to the zerg and let him do whatever he wants he can outdrone me by 20-30 drones.. its ****in stupid.

i just don't know how to deal with this match up anymore
sig rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k 4.4ghz ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3) Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti SoC Patriot Viper DDR3 2x4gb 1600 MHZ CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
WD 500GB BLACK Samsung 840 Maxtor 320 GB Windows 7 Home Prenium 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS VS247 Samsung BX2431 Razer BlackWidow OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 2 600W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
COOLERMASTER HAF 922 Logitech G9X SteelSeries QcK Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality - Audio Techn... 
  hide details  
Reply
sig rig
(17 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500k 4.4ghz ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3) Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti SoC Patriot Viper DDR3 2x4gb 1600 MHZ CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
WD 500GB BLACK Samsung 840 Maxtor 320 GB Windows 7 Home Prenium 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
ASUS VS247 Samsung BX2431 Razer BlackWidow OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 2 600W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
COOLERMASTER HAF 922 Logitech G9X SteelSeries QcK Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatality - Audio Techn... 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5329 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by brandontaz2k2 View Post
Congrats cory1234, you are now 1337.
Haha thank you.

That could be contributed to the fact that the game is using both cores, and performance takes a slight hit due to background applications. A 5% difference doesn't mean it's using 3 cores to me.
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Gigabyte UD3P EVGA 460 gtx 1gb SC 2x4 GB Corsair Vengance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS/40gb Kingston SSD/ 500g... Asus Dvd burner Ultra 120 Extreme Win 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung BX2450 Filco Mx Brown Corsair 650TX CM 690 II Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudio
G500 Razer Audio Technica M50s 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 2500K Gigabyte UD3P EVGA 460 gtx 1gb SC 2x4 GB Corsair Vengance 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS/40gb Kingston SSD/ 500g... Asus Dvd burner Ultra 120 Extreme Win 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung BX2450 Filco Mx Brown Corsair 650TX CM 690 II Advanced 
MouseMouse PadAudio
G500 Razer Audio Technica M50s 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5330 of 25319
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbonerds View Post
LoL, as a terran player myself, i find that there is NO WAY to beat a good zerg late game. The matchup consits of

Me turtling in my base doing a couple of harass/timing push

hellions - 2 roach stops this or queen blocking your ramp
banshee - maybe i'm doing this wrong but everytime i go for banshee i only kill 3-2 drones for 200 gas....
drops - LOL? ya right overlords all over the map/creep/ and mutas flying gaining map control.. its hard to do a drop nowadays...

Timing pushs works the best for me so far.. pushing out with mass rines with 2-1 tanks works but a ****load of banelings and sling own this...

now if i don't do anything to the zerg and let him do whatever he wants he can outdrone me by 20-30 drones.. its ****in stupid.

i just don't know how to deal with this match up anymore
Yeah TvZ is very broken right now. It's not that Zerg is IMBA, it's just that Terran late game sucks ass.


Also, BigFan for GSL finals:

They talk about how hatch first is dangerous again, we'll that's only a little bit true. Look at game 7, Boxer, the best marine micro currently, does an all in rush with marines, and 15+ SCV's. Close positions on metal, against hatch first with no lings at the time, and STILL loses. Yeah he lost game one to the same thing, but the fact that you can hold an all in like that at all and still be able to get away with hatch first 50% of the time is ridiculous. Not only that, but Foxer failed quite a few attempts at preventing that, and so did Boxer, who got raped. Safe to say that hatch first is almost always ideal for Zerg, and over all pretty safe.
1440P Extreme.
(17 items)
 
Now the wifes PC.
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7 3930K @ 4.4ghz Asus Rampage IV Extreme 2011 EVGA GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW EVGA GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G,skill Ripjaw Z series 2400 32gb Samsung 840 Pro Seagate 3TB 7200 RPM  Western Digital mainstream 3TB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Pro LG Bluray Burner Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Windows 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Monoprice 27" 2560x1440 IPS LED Razer Black Widow Tournament Edition Corsair RM1000 CoolerMaster Storm Trooper 
Other
EVGA SLI Bridge 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel I7 870 @ 3.6 ghz ASUS P7P55D-E Pro EVGA 680 GTX 4gb EVGA 680 GTX 4gb 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4x 4GB) DDR3 Samsung 830 128 GB SSD, WD 2TB 7200 RPM LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner Windows 7 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer G24, 24" 1920x1200 Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Antec TruePower 750 COOLER MASTER Storm Scout 
MouseMouse Pad
Rat7 Razer eXactMat 
  hide details  
Reply
1440P Extreme.
(17 items)
 
Now the wifes PC.
(14 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
I7 3930K @ 4.4ghz Asus Rampage IV Extreme 2011 EVGA GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW EVGA GTX 980 Ti 6GB FTW 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G,skill Ripjaw Z series 2400 32gb Samsung 840 Pro Seagate 3TB 7200 RPM  Western Digital mainstream 3TB  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Pro LG Bluray Burner Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 Windows 10 x64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Monoprice 27" 2560x1440 IPS LED Razer Black Widow Tournament Edition Corsair RM1000 CoolerMaster Storm Trooper 
Other
EVGA SLI Bridge 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel I7 870 @ 3.6 ghz ASUS P7P55D-E Pro EVGA 680 GTX 4gb EVGA 680 GTX 4gb 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOS
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4x 4GB) DDR3 Samsung 830 128 GB SSD, WD 2TB 7200 RPM LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner Windows 7 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer G24, 24" 1920x1200 Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Antec TruePower 750 COOLER MASTER Storm Scout 
MouseMouse Pad
Rat7 Razer eXactMat 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: PC Gaming
Overclock.net › Forums › Video Games › PC Gaming › [Official] Starcraft 2 Strategy & Discussion Thread