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They probably won't be able to get close enough to explode with this many marines though =p
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Ultralisks are not even being close to countering marines. Maybe they were having a laugh as well. A handfull of banelings would make your army vanish in seconds.
I think they tried that. I remember chargelots vaporizing before reaching the marines, so I doubt banelings would fair any better...
    
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Eh you've clearly made up your mind about the game, so I'm no going to even bother arguing.
Lol, exactly.

He played one group of supposed Diamond League players, and apparently, those 4 are representative of the entire league/all other decent SCII players, since he can no longer "play the game seriously anymore."

I saw no Infestors, no Corruptors/Mutas to take out the Medivacs, no Roaches to compliment the Ultralisks, and more importantly, no back up from any of the other teammates in those above particular photographs.

Also, Marines and Medivacs =/= "exclusively Marines". Any decent player knows that any MM combination can be very, very deadly if not correctly countered with a corresponding combination of units at the same time. I could decimate that MM army with just a couple sentries/a Collosus/HT and a few Stalkers or like I said, Roaches with a few Infestors and Mutas.
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I saw no Infestors, no Corruptors/Mutas to take out the Medivacs, no Roaches to compliment the Ultralisks, and more importantly, no back up from any of the other teammates in those above particular photographs.
They built all of those. I'll give you the replay if you want.

Everything just vaporizes in seconds... we just attack moved and scanned and everything in the path died. 150+ marines was just stupidly effective... even when they are doing only 2dmg per shot to a Ultralisk.
    
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Lol, exactly.

He played one group of supposed Diamond League players, and apparently, those 4 are representative of the entire league/all other decent SCII players, since he can no longer "play the game seriously anymore."

I saw no Infestors, no Corruptors/Mutas to take out the Medivacs, no Roaches to compliment the Ultralisks, and more importantly, no back up from any of the other teammates in those above particular photographs.

Also, Marines and Medivacs =/= "exclusively Marines". Any decent player knows that any MM combination can be very, very deadly if not correctly countered with a corresponding combination of units at the same time. I could decimate that MM army with just a couple sentries/a Collosus/HT and a few Stalkers or like I said, Roaches with a few Infestors and Mutas.

i always thought that a marines rush, properly upgraded was pretty badass. not always, but often.
    
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Ultralisks are not even being close to countering marines. Maybe they were having a laugh as well. A handfull of banelings would make your army vanish in seconds.
Have you never used ultras?

A "handful" of banelings wouldn't even reach the marines.

He's just telling a funny story about how he goofed around and won. You guys are just being jerks.
    
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They built all of those. I'll give you the replay if you want.

Everything just vaporizes in seconds... we just attack moved and scanned and everything in the path died. 150+ marines was just stupidly effective... even when they are doing only 2dmg per shot to a Ultralisk.
Then they didn't scout, or scout often enough. If you let someone pump out 150 Marines, and you can't defend it, you're doing it WAY wrong. As soon as I know you left your base *by scouting*, I send units (Banshees, Mutas, 2-3 VRs) to take out your mains/scanners/economy.

Depending on what my other teammates are doing, you should all be completely blind by the time you hit anyone but the first person you chose.

Then I go to town with a bunch of cloaked units, and at this point, the possibilities are endless. Hell, cannon walling would take out half that army.

It's obvious these guys weren't very good or were overthinking on a strategy against mass Marines/Medivacs. Much like Rank isn't necessarily indicative of one's overreaching skill in Battlefield, League Placement isn't necessarily indicative of skill or common sense when it comes to SCII.

And we're not being jerks. It's more like it's kind of ridiculous when someone claims that they can't take the game seriously cause they got lucky with a senseless build order. Those Diamond League players obviously sucked; it's not the game mechanics as was subtlely hinted at.
Edited by jcde7ago - 8/9/10 at 11:54am
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He's just telling a funny story about how he goofed around and won. You guys are just being jerks.
Thank you

I just had a good time with some friends, had a few beers and played some games. Half the time I couldn't even play I was laughing so hard. Attack-move and watch the hilarity ensue...

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And we're not being jerks. It's more like it's kind of ridiculous when someone claims that they can't take the game seriously cause they got lucky with a senseless build order.
EDIT: I think we all have a misunderstanding here. I'm not saying I can't take other players seriously, that's far from the truth. I can't take the game seriously anymore because I don't want to play for real. I just want to play like an idiot and laugh hysterically... everyone at the LAN agreed that my stupidity ruined playing SC2 'for real'. Playing 'correctly' is boring now lol
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Fungal growth anyone?
    
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I've blown up thirty marines with four or five siege tanks before. Nothing like watching bloody holes appear in a sea of marines, lol. High ground and siege mode ftw! I'd love to see the replay though of your 4v4 marine rush. Sounds like a good learning experience. Mind posting it somewhere?
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