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dammit I got bumped down to 4th in the ocn ratings. I WAS IN FIRST THEN I STOPPED PLAYING FOR 2 WEEKS ***.
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dammit I got bumped down to 4th in the ocn ratings. I WAS IN FIRST THEN I STOPPED PLAYING FOR 2 WEEKS ***.
I don't remember you ever being in first.
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Who's first?
Debating if I should start laddering. Would no doubt accelerate my balding though
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Who's first?
Debating if I should start laddering. Would no doubt accelerate my balding though
You should start laddering. You are a good player and certainly capable of getting a high ladder score. It's fun man.. been telling you to do it.

Nevermind is Lazerbeam @ #1. Cory1234 is Inferno at #2.

You're the only one with with more wins than losses on this forum against me that I play so far. Though I don't know what is is about you we always have some really ****ing crazy close matches that you end up pulling out of your ass! But that's a good thing . I think I will work on my Z more cause I think Z will still be better than my Terran in the long run.
Edited by DoomDash - 11/30/10 at 12:46pm
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I never see any T's use marines exclusively. I do marine rushes early and transition out. Marine rushes are really awesome against Z actually... and IMO the only way to keep Zerg from pulling way ahead these days. Before I did these marine pushes I was finding that if I didn't win with a timing attack I just wouldn't win period. With the marine pushes I can actually end up on equal footing for the mid-game for once.

As for Protoss I don't really feel sorry for them.. only maybe slightly against Zerg. Also bane drops aren't that hard my 2000 Zerg buddy does them effectively and he isn't 2600+. Ladder rating means jack for the most part. Read my post on the last page about the difference in skill I've noticed on two different accounts, against people the same scores.
One of last month's most discussed replays on Gosugamers, I forget who was playing. TvZ with terran making only marines and medivac. He QQs about banelings and wins the game anyway. I was exaggerating and generally terrans seem to use a pretty good mix though.

Bane drops are easy if the opponent is a sitting duck. They get hard once the enemy starts kiting you, and you need to micro surround, fungal growth and micro individual overlords. In a fast-paced game you need to do this on the fly, with units coming from all over the place. It's pretty intensive.

I'm sure you've noticed a difference in skill between players of the same score. I just don't see how an extremely small sample size of anecdotal data is evidence of ratings meaning "jack ****". SC2 ratings are just like chess ratings - they're absolutely representative of skill, particularly at higher rankings.
    
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Yeah just saying a 2200 player doesn't mean better than a 2000 player. Generally probably it does, but not always. The people I'm playing on my huggle account that are 2200 are easy, and the people I play at 2200 on DoomDash are much much harder. Blizzard has said that sc2ranks.com isn't accurate idea of world rankings because you can only truly get an accurate rank with MMR, and your rating is more accurate in just your own division.
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Yeah just saying a 2200 player doesn't mean better than a 2000 player. Generally probably it does, but not always. The people I'm playing on my huggle account that are 2200 are easy, and the people I play at 2200 on DoomDash are much much harder. Blizzard has said that sc2ranks.com isn't accurate idea of world rankings because you can only truly get an accurate rank with MMR, and your rating is more accurate in just your own division.
I agree wholehartedly with this. I have beaten some 14-1500 level diamonds (as a 1700 platinium) and I thought they were HORRIBLE, and im a PLATINIUM PLAYER!
Points in divisions cant be all there is. I wish we could see the MMR.

I have played against some 1500 to 1800 platiniums that just seemed unbeatable no matter how well I played. They seemed on the ball against my early preassure, or were able to keep up with my expos or had insane micro skills and came up on top in close battles.
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Who's first?
Debating if I should start laddering. Would no doubt accelerate my balding though
I think you should, it's quite fun and at least your opponents are at your level

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Originally Posted by DoomDash View Post
You should start laddering. You are a good player and certainly capable of getting a high ladder score. It's fun man.. been telling you to do it.

Nevermind is Lazerbeam @ #1. Cory1234 is Inferno at #2.

You're the only one with with more wins than losses on this forum against me that I play so far. Though I don't know what is is about you we always have some really ****ing crazy close matches that you end up pulling out of your ass! But that's a good thing . I think I will work on my Z more cause I think Z will still be better than my Terran in the long run.
hmm, thinking of jumping ships?

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Yeah just saying a 2200 player doesn't mean better than a 2000 player. Generally probably it does, but not always. The people I'm playing on my huggle account that are 2200 are easy, and the people I play at 2200 on DoomDash are much much harder. Blizzard has said that sc2ranks.com isn't accurate idea of world rankings because you can only truly get an accurate rank with MMR, and your rating is more accurate in just your own division.
True, because, a 2200 in one diamond league isn't at the same level as in another. I think something like 20 pages back or so, we were talking about this and how some diamond league are better than others

Anyone up for a game or two?
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No jumping ships. Zerg is just easier to win with for me. I still will play Terran as my main, but I will continue to keep my Zerg played occasionally as well just in case.
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No jumping ships. Zerg is just easier to win with for me. I still will play Terran as my main, but I will continue to keep my Zerg played occasionally as well just in case.
hmm, maybe it's just me, but, I think you play Z much better than T
    
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