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What's the best way to deal with a thor/marine/scv all-in? Im guessing a bunch of zealots and a couple immortals. It's PITA to focus fire each SCV (especially the ones hiding behind the thor) with melee units. Im guessing I can target the thor with the zealots then press hold position when they run around the thor like a bunch of idiots. This should allow the zealots to automatically attack the SCVs. Can anybody confirm this working?



Oh hai hater. FF is really hard against stimmed MM who knows how to micro, unless they run up your ramp. They will just run away before your sentries get close enough to FF. But by that time you should be set to put up your expo.
Charge lot voids? DT's? Templars? Something like that. I wrote a guide on SCarena on that if you recall.
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What's the best way to deal with a thor/marine/scv all-in? Im guessing a bunch of zealots and a couple immortals. It's PITA to focus fire each SCV (especially the ones hiding behind the thor) with melee units. Im guessing I can target the thor with the zealots then press hold position when they run around the thor like a bunch of idiots. This should allow the zealots to automatically attack the SCVs. Can anybody confirm this working?



Oh hai hater. FF is really hard against stimmed MM who knows how to micro, unless they run up your ramp. They will just run away before your sentries get close enough to FF. But by that time you should be set to put up your expo.

You die. lol. It's almost OP since zealots can't even reach the thor if there is enough scv's surrounding it. I guess storms or a couple of good ff to seperate the scvs from the thor, but then you have to worry about all that dps coming from the rines too. Not to mention is it really hard to get storms out before thors. Imo the units should automatically target scvs instead of trying to reach the thor in that situation. That is the reason they made the thor smaller already.

That or twice as many immortals as thors.
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What's the best way to deal with a thor/marine/scv all-in? Im guessing a bunch of zealots and a couple immortals. It's PITA to focus fire each SCV (especially the ones hiding behind the thor) with melee units. Im guessing I can target the thor with the zealots then press hold position when they run around the thor like a bunch of idiots. This should allow the zealots to automatically attack the SCVs. Can anybody confirm this working?
I think something like that would work well. I mean when I'm playing Z and see scv around, the trick is what you mentioned, click on thor, get slings to run around, press H for hold and then they'll attack the SCV

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Oh hai hater. FF is really hard against stimmed MM who knows how to micro, unless they run up your ramp. They will just run away before your sentries get close enough to FF. But by that time you should be set to put up your expo.
I don't know, I mean ff is pretty powerful. In the games I've played, it's prolonged my chance of survival against both T and Z(haven't been against a P yet) especially when used in combination with stalkers due to their range. Also, you can use ff to cage them or to make a line rather quickly because all you'll have to do is press f, press on map, rinse and repeat. As long as your sentries are within range, it's pretty much instanteous
    
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What's the best way to deal with a thor/marine/scv all-in? Im guessing a bunch of zealots and a couple immortals. It's PITA to focus fire each SCV (especially the ones hiding behind the thor) with melee units. Im guessing I can target the thor with the zealots then press hold position when they run around the thor like a bunch of idiots. This should allow the zealots to automatically attack the SCVs. Can anybody confirm this working?
Void rays are in fact pretty good and on maps with longer rush distances you can fast expand safely. Today I've had 2000+ terran trying 2 thors drop against my fast expo and failing miserably. Can upload a replay, but it's on the other comp atm.

For the push with SCVs watch Doomdash's game against Plexa where he gets owned by a Protoss player like a little baby.
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What's the best way to deal with a thor/marine/scv all-in? Im guessing a bunch of zealots and a couple immortals. It's PITA to focus fire each SCV (especially the ones hiding behind the thor) with melee units. Im guessing I can target the thor with the zealots then press hold position when they run around the thor like a bunch of idiots. This should allow the zealots to automatically attack the SCVs. Can anybody confirm this working?
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what i cant figure out is how i keep getting demoted even though my score is higher than the other teams when i play 4v4? anyone have a clue, i thought it went off of score not wins
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I have used that strategy a lot with the thor rush, its nice but the only time i have lost is if DT's are out and i dont have enough scans, and one guy force field the ramp and roasted most of my scvs with colossi and it was over for me. but ppl that say immortal no because how many can you get at 9 min because thats when I would attack and any decent player will have cannon upgrade and stun them and kill them instantly. But I like other builds anyways.
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For the push with SCVs watch Doomdash's game against Plexa where he gets owned by a Protoss player like a little baby.
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Charge lot voids? DT's? Templars? Something like that. I wrote a guide on SCarena on that if you recall.
I dont see how you would be able to get DTs (and definitely not HT with storm) in time without cutting back your army significantly. Im not a big fan of tech switches against early pushes.

Im talking about from the moment your obs scouts the base, what should you do from there with 2-3gates and a robo. Im not sure if tech switching with very little time is the best idea in this situation. VRs get owned by marines too.

So what should I do if I already have 3gates and a robo (instead of stargate or twilight council)? If you have a replay of a protoss player successfully beating this push with 2-3gates and a robo, please post it.

TBH I nearly stopped his push but was not able to kill his thors. It was on LT at 3 and 6 o'clock positions and I already threw up my expo. I think the expo was the mistake there.

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Void rays are in fact pretty good and on maps with longer rush distances you can fast expand safely. Today I've had 2000+ terran trying 2 thors drop against my fast expo and failing miserably. Can upload a replay, but it's on the other comp atm.

For the push with SCVs watch Doomdash's game against Plexa where he gets owned by a Protoss player like a little baby.
Void rays is a good option if I already have a stargate but wouldnt the marines just snipe them down easily even with zealots? And what do you do about the SCVs?
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