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If every match was TvP I'd be like 2500 by now .
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I'm sure Z will be nerfed in time. Which is why I keep playing. It's frustrating. I do marine pressure and fast expand vs Zerg now. Last game I was 2 base vs 2 base and 20 supply ahead and I still lost to mass speedlings / banes with the muta harass. The problem is I can't apply any pressure while Muta's are harassing. I think that's the entire problem. I know how to play the match in theory it just doesn't work that way because of Muta map control, especially on large maps where your immobile terran army is incredibly easy to get ready for. I do blame this old computer for making me get WRECKED that game, but I don't think it would have mattered if I wasn't lagging bad during my slaughter or not.. just woulda have been slightly less one sided.

I really wish I wouldn't ***** about it but I just can't help it when I'm super pissed.
Why not build some vikings and ravens if mutas are bugging you? Vikings have 9 range to mutas' 3 and ravens can throw down PDD's and autoturrets. I don't know why so many Terrans are reluctant to get vikings. I play zerg and I don't like spending on corruptors but there are times when you need to spend whatever it takes to control the airspace over your bases and ground units. And it's not like vikings and ravens are useless except for air defense.
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Why not build some vikings and ravens if mutas are bugging you? Vikings have 9 range to mutas' 3 and ravens can throw down PDD's and autoturrets. I don't know why so many Terrans are reluctant to get vikings. I play zerg and I don't like spending on corruptors but there are times when you need to spend whatever it takes to control the airspace over your bases and ground units. And it's not like vikings and ravens are useless except for air defense.
Vikings suck, and Raven's are too gas heavy and slow to ever be effective vs Muta. I would like them if Seeker was better. I've tried viking builds they are terrible vs muta. That's the problem . I want valks!


Anyway I have a really cool idea for a TvT opener that I will be doing now .
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Anyway I have a really cool idea for a TvT opener that I will be doing now .
As you guys remember I had wrote a nice SCII guide on TvP Thor 250 MM cannon timing pushes @ SCArena. Well I decided to write another one though its more of a theory build so far. It basically goes over my idea behind it, and why I think it will be a good build.

Let me know what you guys think:

http://starcraftarena.net/forum/index.php?topic=34217.0
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Vikings suck, and Raven's are too gas heavy and slow to ever be effective vs Muta. I would like them if Seeker was better. I've tried viking builds they are terrible vs muta. That's the problem . I want valks!


Anyway I have a really cool idea for a TvT opener that I will be doing now .
The slowness of Ravens isn't really a problem if you're using them for base defense. And what's wrong with vikings? They can lob long-range shots at mutas and the mutas won't be able to retaliate without coming within the firing range of marines, missile turrets, and autoturrets, not to mention point defense drones. Sure, ravens and vikings are kinda expensive but so are mutas. As a general rule if you want to counter an expensive unit you might have to buy an expensive unit of your own. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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Vikings suck, and Raven's are too gas heavy and slow to ever be effective vs Muta. I would like them if Seeker was better. I've tried viking builds they are terrible vs muta. That's the problem . I want valks!


Anyway I have a really cool idea for a TvT opener that I will be doing now .
I've seen a few games on youtube where the T mass ravened as support and killed off large muta flock easily with pdd and seeker.
    
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Is it just me or are there no noobs on the test realm? While bronze players are pretty weak, silver is already like high plat/lower diamond lol. Even bronze players seem much better than an average gold on normal ladder.
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Is it just me or are there no noobs on the test realm? While bronze players are pretty weak, silver is already like high plat/lower diamond lol. Even bronze players seem much better than an average gold on normal ladder.
Yea me and Doom mentioned that. Seems like all of the good players are testing the PTR.
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You guys have aloso probably already talked about this too but, the arcade game in in the cantina is the most awesome galaga knock off ever. Lol nothing in this game is original but they do a good job on making it worth playing.
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You guys have aloso probably already talked about this too but, the arcade game in in the cantina is the most awesome galaga knock off ever. Lol nothing in this game is original but they do a good job on making it worth playing.
What isnt original about SC2(not lost viking)? What game did Blizzard copy?
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