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I'm so sick of PvPs. 50% of it is cheese either by me or by opponent, or both lol. The rest is a lottery between 4 gate, 3 gate robo, blink stalkers and DT rushes. And it seems like whatever I do my opponent does exactly a build that counters it.
Actually Ive had some pretty good PvPs lately without one base all-ins. I think Ive been proxy 2 gated 2-3 times the last month though which Ive lost. I almost never lose to a 4 gate though even if Im teching or getting a FE.

Try 2 gate/stargate next time in PvP. It's so underrated I think.
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@CramComplex SC2 froze so I had to force it to close. I'll try to be back on later tonight for a game or two but not 100% positive. BTW, great game, but, had I had those banes ready when you attacked the first time, your MM would've never taken down my main. I think you should vary your composition a bit. Once you saw I had banes, going heavy on marines is a bad idea even if you have a lot, because, all it'll take is for me to run some slings at you then flood you with blings to completely neutralize your whole force. You saw me do that a couple of times in our matches even to the point where you lost your mass marines very fast while I suffered minor casualties. Banes hard counter marines, so, adding some thors into the mix would've also helped due to their large hp and huge air range It's pretty funny how bad my bane bombing went though, forgot that I have to click on each OL seperately to unload XD
    
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I need a practice partner...either on PTR or Main server I dun care >_< halp me improve...so far I've got the build orders for the first 6 minutes...after that all hell breaks loose.

I've been trying to internalize Day9's stuff but it's pretty hard w/o practice.
Build orders should really only be used up until about the 6-7 minute mark to be honest. You should always have a mid-late game plan when following build orders though, depending on what your opponent does of course.
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@CramComplex SC2 froze so I had to force it to close. I'll try to be back on later tonight for a game or two but not 100% positive. BTW, great game, but, had I had those banes ready when you attacked the first time, your MM would've never taken down my main. I think you should vary your composition a bit. Once you saw I had banes, going heavy on marines is a bad idea even if you have a lot, because, all it'll take is for me to run some slings at you then flood you with blings to completely neutralize your whole force. You saw me do that a couple of times in our matches even to the point where you lost your mass marines very fast while I suffered minor casualties. Banes hard counter marines, so, adding some thors into the mix would've also helped due to their large hp and huge air range It's pretty funny how bad my bane bombing went though, forgot that I have to click on each OL seperately to unload XD
Yeah...by that time my brain was numb...like I was on automatic...spamming AAAAA forgetting I had D's and a factory with armory...never thought thors were a counter for speedbanes too...was banking on the fact that I had a few tanks to take them out...was more concerened with mutas at that time...man those banes eat through marines like butter...GGs anyway...saved the replay so I can see what I did wrong...

Your bane drop was effective and took out all my SCVs
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Build orders should really only be used up until about the 6-7 minute mark to be honest. You should always have a mid-late game plan when following build orders though, depending on what your opponent does of course.
Hmm...alright...I am a counter player so I need to scout ahead or if he's on aggression I need to counter it...I usually don't have any mid-game or late-game plan...but as far as mid-game goes i usually go MDMT or MMT but it really depends on what the opponent is doing too
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Yeah...by that time my brain was numb...like I was on automatic...spamming AAAAA forgetting I had D's and a factory with armory...never thought thors were a counter for speedbanes too...was banking on the fact that I had a few tanks to take them out...was more concerened with mutas at that time...man those banes eat through marines like butter...GGs anyway...saved the replay so I can see what I did wrong...

Your bane drop was effective and took out all my SCVs
Pretty much, banes hard counter marines like crazy. I had over 9k minerals and several k gas when you attacked the first time, so, I would've been able to throw slings at you all night long if I wanted to. Did I mention I had 5 hatcheries? XD
As for the bane drop, well, I wanted to drop into your main but the turrets+barely any SCVs made me move them into your exp which had a TON of SCVs, lol. SCV heaven I made the drop but I had to attend to my base, so, i didn't see the result. Nice to know I got all your SCVs though XD It's the first time I tried a bane drop so at least it partially worked
    
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Pretty much, banes hard counter marines like crazy. I had over 9k minerals and several k gas when you attacked the first time, so, I would've been able to throw slings at you all night long if I wanted to. Did I mention I had 5 hatcheries? XD
As for the bane drop, well, I wanted to drop into your main but the turrets+barely any SCVs made me move them into your exp which had a TON of SCVs, lol. SCV heaven I made the drop but I had to attend to my base, so, i didn't see the result. Nice to know I got all your SCVs though XD It's the first time I tried a bane drop so at least it partially worked
Yup i saw them with scans...that's why i took the left expo...i guess you never dropped my other expo on the island LOL well I guess I should be more careful of unit composition and timings...
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Come on Cram where you at .
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This was a fun game against an 1800 point diamond player. He tries to go all-in with thor/helion/tanks and SCVs. I on the other hand go for a 11 pool 18 hatch build with roach/ling and some mutas to harass.

Still stuck in Platinum league though =[

This was also a good game, guy was a sore loser though...


Nydus > Medivacs
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Abandon practice games.
okay, I got placed into silver I think, 3/5 wins, got owned by cheese once
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