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That's pretty high, are you sure it isn't lower? Sensing made up stats here, but, I agree. Most T games have MMM in them, it just doesn't make the race as unique if you are to make the same unit composition but nothing to do but wait for patches. I think thors+cannons would've helped against those colossi though.
As for mass ravens, well, I would like to do that, but, they are soo expensive and some feedback which is quite cheap(50) from hts would take most of them down :/
No it's not 95% but its easily majority. Thor's are OK paired in but nothing to write home about. Once they get a decent ball getting in 250 MM cannon range is nearly impossible ( when they have range 9 ).

Raven's are good for sure but very gas heavy, and usually by that tech templars are pretty good at nullifying them.

If you think SSCZ is good, you haven't seen anything yet. Try SSCZT and then let me know what you think, because Colossus with that army aint **** compared to Templars being paired in.
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thanks, will try and watch, guessing it has some good tips, don't mind artosis casting it either
You don't mind Artosis, but you mind Day9? =[
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You don't mind Artosis, but you mind Day9? =[
He likes Artosis's blatant Zerg favoritism.
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Here are the notable games from last night:



Vdek got way too greedy way too early. I was wondering how the hell he was going to defend himself after blowing all his cash on hatcheries and drones and letting that Toss probe see everything there was to see. Turns out, he wasn't going to defend himself. Toss army walked right into the main.

The ZvZ game was interesting. Poorly executed baneling bust at 6:10 by NorthKorea. Hardly worth bothering. And I don't know why NK didn't think to try a speedling run in the mid or late game. He got fixated on roaches and mutas despite having a gazillion minerals in the bank and 4 hatcheries to generate larvae. There were a few times a speedling ball could have ran through MasterLaw's bases and slaughtered mass drones with little loss, as well as destroying those annoying sporecrawlers. Also, IMO infestors should be burrowed by default. They should only surface to cast fungal growth, then go back underground. NK used his infestors to good effect but he kept losing them needlessly because he left them above ground for no reason. When infestors aren't casting they're nothing but a juicy target. There's no reason to have them loitering above ground.
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Vdek got way too greedy way too early. I was wondering how the hell he was going to defend himself after blowing all his cash on hatcheries and drones and letting that Toss probe see everything there was to see. Turns out, he wasn't going to defend himself. Toss army walked right into the main.

The ZvZ game was interesting. Poorly executed baneling bust at 6:10 by NorthKorea. Hardly worth bothering. And I don't know why NK didn't think to try a speedling run in the mid or late game. He got fixated on roaches and mutas despite having a gazillion minerals in the bank and 4 hatcheries to generate larvae. There were a few times a speedling ball could have ran through MasterLaw's bases and slaughtered mass drones with little loss, as well as destroying those annoying sporecrawlers. Also, IMO infestors should be burrowed by default. They should only surface to cast fungal growth, then go back underground. NK used his infestors to good effect but he kept losing them needlessly because he left them above ground for no reason. When infestors aren't casting they're nothing but a juicy target. There's no reason to have them loitering above ground.
Actually I like vdeks build, if you really look the only reason he lost was because he got +1 attack instead of +1 armor for his lings. He almost took out all the Zealots WITH +1 attack, imagine how bad he would have slaughtered them with +1 armor. Zealots 1 less attack swipe with +1, but Z +1 armor cancels it out.

Also I agree with yks, NEVER good to go +1 as Z blind. Sorry vdek.
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@BigFan: This is directed specifically at players of your type: http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4152891/.
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@BigFan: This is directed specifically at players of your type: http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/4152891/.
He's too cool to watch that. He doesn't need any help.
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You don't mind Artosis, but you mind Day9? =[
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He likes Artosis's blatant Zerg favoritism.
OMG, not this again I don't even know when race Artosis plays, I thought he was P or something. Either way, I'm not biting
    
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Actually I like vdeks build, if you really look the only reason he lost was because he got +1 attack instead of +1 armor for his lings. He almost took out all the Zealots WITH +1 attack, imagine how bad he would have slaughtered them with +1 armor. Zealots 1 less attack swipe with +1, but Z +1 armor cancels it out.

Also I agree with yks, NEVER good to go +1 as Z blind. Sorry vdek.
The Toss attack was a little too leisurely IMO. Why stop to destroy the two expo hatcheries? So time-consuming to do that. Push into the main and kill the queens and drones and spawning pool. Faster and more effective to do that.
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He's too cool to watch that. He doesn't need any help.
But it's just so relevant. I've watched it just today and told my mate from bronze do the same. He literally addresses all kinds of things that make BigFan's way of thinking about the game wrong.

Edit: I kind of agree with Lucas Lamer. Only x4'd through the game, but that attack was relatively weak. If he couldn't hold that off what would he do against 12 blink stalkers exactly at the same time or 5 zealot + 6 stalker 1 minute earlier from a normal 4 gate.
Edited by poroboszcz - 12/23/10 at 2:26pm
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