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As BigFan said marines are good vs void rays. If you see or suspect them just make sure to have a decent amount of Marines, shield, and stim.

Also, since you are new a very good standard build should be 3 rax into reactor starport. 2 rax with tech labs, 1 with reactor. Get the reactor starport for medivacs and if you see voids and you need extra help vs them vikings are really good vs void rays.
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The Toss attack was a little too leisurely IMO. Why stop to destroy the two expo hatcheries? So time-consuming to do that. Push into the main and kill the queens and drones and spawning pool. Faster and more effective to do that.
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Edit: I kind of agree with Lucas Lamer. Only x4'd through the game, but that attack was relatively weak. If he couldn't hold that off what would he do against 12 blink stalkers exactly at the same time or 5 zealot + 6 stalker 1 minute earlier from a normal 4 gate.
I don't see how the attack was weak. Standard +1 timing push without missing a warp rotation, so the only thing that'll change is unit composition, but still the same amount of units.

What I chose to attack, however, is up for debate. I chose the overlords, hatches were just a by-product of having Zealots.
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I liked yks's attack, a lot actually. I wasn't paying super close attention to it but it was a greatly timed attack. Also as far as going into he main that's not needed. You can just take out an expo, expand yourself and come out ahead without being greedy.
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Man, i just went like 4 str8 in wins...one of them, i cant beleieve it, i failed on a cannon rush...and still came back to win...see replay. Would have lost ****-tons of points...he was lower ranked, but bnet said even match.

...OOOO-KAAAAY....

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I'm just kidding I don't need your rep I was just joking.

Nah we'll see what happens with Diablo III. I am really excited about that game too. I think my playing SCII for a long time is also dependent on upon the expansions.
Really, I see and here I was being serious since both of you guys were trying hard to convince me, but, if you feel that way, I can call us the post office and try to track it down XD We still haven't had a 1vs1 in a while though

The expansions can't be all that bad, although, I know you aren't implying that. With the addition of 2-3 units per race, they'll be a lot more strats, not including all the patches till then which will change the different matchups(roach range, phenoix 10sec change, etc.... have/will change a lot)
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I have high hopes for the expansions . No worries.
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I have high hopes for the expansions . No worries.
We'll see how you like it once lurkers are back!
    
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We'll see how you like it once lurkers are back!
I don't think that will happen, unless they remove units. Lurkers would overlap banes and infestors ( FG ).
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I don't think that will happen, unless they remove units. Lurkers would overlap banes and infestors ( FG ).
One can be hopeful, can they not?

Edit: BTW, did you get a chance to watch the replay I was talking about?
Edited by BigFan - 12/23/10 at 3:18pm
    
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I don't see how the attack was weak. Standard +1 timing push without missing a warp rotation, so the only thing that'll change is unit composition, but still the same amount of units.

What I chose to attack, however, is up for debate. I chose the overlords, hatches were just a by-product of having Zealots.
Not saying the build was weak on it's own. Just saying there are stronger timing pushes against zerg and since he wasn't able to hold this one off, it makes his build questionable.

At the time a normal 4 gate hits with 11 units he had 6 lings and pretty much nothing else. He got his first queen around 7 minutes. He didn't scout at the most obvious location for a proxy pylon. He didn't scout your base. After fast expanding he had less workers than you, doing all-in off one base. He would have also died to DT rush or fast VRs. He would pretty much die to anything that hits before 9 minutes.
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