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Why would I talk about anything you do right? Who cares... we are looking at what you are doing wrong so you get better... and theres a whole lot. That not enough units to protect expos is garbage because you'd have more than enough units if you just spent your money in the first place. This isn't a bank, you don't get interest.
Yes, but, you seem to forget that I've stated multiple times that I have issues with spending and getting a third exp up early in the game because I'm used to 2 basing a lot in the silver league, so, it's NOT something new. I ALREADY knew that I messed those up in the game. The whole point was to show that I've worked on my droning, making units, scouting, etc.... It's also unrealistic to think with the small amount of games that I'm currently playing that I can jump to having <500 resources and getting 4+ bases in any game.

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Ah the game where I lost all my probes, twice xD
lol, it could've been that game, can't remember what you exactly lost XD
    
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Yes, but, you seem to forget that I've stated multiple times that I have issues with spending and getting a third exp up early in the game because I'm used to 2 basing a lot in the silver league, so, it's NOT something new. I ALREADY knew that I messed those up in the game. The whole point was to show that I've worked on my droning, making units, scouting, etc.... It's also unrealistic to think with the small amount of games that I'm currently playing that I can jump to having <500 resources and getting 4+ bases in any game.


lol, it could've been that game, can't remember what you exactly lost XD
It's not unrealistic at all. It's something not hard even remotely. You just expand when you have a ton of money, and you build units when you have a ton of money. You even had map control and you didn't expand.

What's hard about that? I was doing that in beta on my first day playing.


When I was watching you play YKS when you played Terran I was pointing out your money was high. You said "I know" and didn't change a thing. Literally your barracks didn't build anything else for 5 minutes while you sat on 3k and 30 room for supply. How hard is it to build units?
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guys watch this replay, read description:

http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft...ails&id=176070
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It's not unrealistic at all. It's something not hard even remotely. You just expand when you have a ton of money, and you build units when you have a ton of money. You even had map control and you didn't expand.

What's hard about that? I was doing that in beta on my first day playing.
I dislike expanding soo fast when I don't think I can provide the defense for it, it's just the way I roll. I just don't like losing structures, I guess, because, it feels like a loss even if I end up winning the game. If I believe that I can defend said exp decently for reinforcements to arrive, I'll expand all over the place, but, if not, then I'll wait for more units to help with defense than expand.

I could also go in any game now as well and just expand to the whole map if I had the money, but, to me, it comes down to the fact that there is too much to focus on when you have many expansions(although I'm sure I can handle it) and whatever army I have will be split until I make some more units, so, expanding recklessly isn't a good idea IMO

Can't recall what I was doing at the time when I had 3k minerals. I think I started laying some structures down(starports), albeit a bit later and started making thors or something as well as getting some upgrades for them and air units. I think I might have also started that 3rd exp as well, but, we know how that turned out As for making units, I usually queue them and then forget to queue some more. When I play Z, I make, spawn larvae, then keep on making units or workers. Guessing issue is due to having one primary production structure(hatchery) compared to several for T/P which I haven't gotten used to yet.
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This is ******* hilarious.
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This is ******* hilarious.
What is, the debate? All I'm trying to say is that I already know about the things he told me(spend, expand) and I'm working on it or are you talking about the losing structures part?
    
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Started playing with out bonus pool... seems like you either go no where slow or just go down. I still think the MMR system is screwy, oh well I guess it doesn't matter.

TvP 2 rax FE is fun.

I thought of a way to make storm more balanced in TvP late game. Now, this is assuming T gets some sort of nerf in the process.. but something as minor as making storm doing less damage per second depending on the armor of the unit. So if you have +3 marauders it will be getting -4 damage off per second of storm than it normally would.

Thoughts? The only thing is that might screw storm up more against heavy armored units like ultras / bc's / carriers...

Thoughts?
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do you still take damage if you move out of the original storm area?

just wondering because when I get stormed so far I've just been moving my units away from it...

do people ever try to drop a templar at your base and storm your workers?
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do you still take damage if you move out of the original storm area?

just wondering because when I get stormed so far I've just been moving my units away from it...

do people try to drop a templar at your base and storm your workers ever?
No.
And yeah. Stormdrops are awesome.
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Started playing with out bonus pool... seems like you either go no where slow or just go down. I still think the MMR system is screwy, oh well I guess it doesn't matter.

TvP 2 rax FE is fun.

I thought of a way to make storm more balanced in TvP late game. Now, this is assuming T gets some sort of nerf in the process.. but something as minor as making storm doing less damage per second depending on the armor of the unit. So if you have +3 marauders it will be getting -4 damage off per second of storm than it normally would.

Thoughts? The only thing is that might screw storm up more against heavy armored units like ultras / bc's / carriers...

Thoughts?
Pretty much answered your own question there. I doubt they'll change storm at all, more likely just buff gateways units, nerf marauders slightly or nerf P late game(colossi).

I just played the most deceptive opponent to date. TvsZ, he has me contained to my two bases. Since he was going MMM, I started getting colossi. Eventually, I steamed rolled his attack and attacked his main through the back rocks and his exp taking them both out. As I started dismantling his main, he gg's and starts talking about cnc3, how he plays it a lot and it isn't similar to sc2, has something like 100000 cash atm, etc.... so, I just listen and comment a bit as I continue taking down his bases and take another base of my own since both are mined out and really needed another.

I pause for a sec, do a couple of things then decide to attack his last exp(deciding on angle due to turrets and PF). All of a sudden, some thors+marines come from near the gold exp where my new nexus is and wipe everything out. Turns out he had another base, must've started building a lot of structures and units once he realized that his main and other exps were goners. He had 3-4 tanks in siege, some thors and marines. Lost my 3-4wounded colossi+whatever gateways units I had left. Thought I had enough firepower, turns out I didn't T_T Then he just moves those out of his base, makes mass marines and attack, end up gg right after and game froze

My fault for being too trusty that when someone gg's they mean it XD
    
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