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Now it's like the opposite and if you see MMM you get a free win as Zerg. Terran has been nerfed a ton since then... Hellions can no longer kite roach, reapers can no longer get speed till factory tech, tanks no longer do 50 to light ( 35 ), BC's damage reduction to ground, tons of upgrade scaling reduced ect, roachs got a range buff, Zerg building HP buffs all around, ect ect.

Right now its Zerg heaven. **** if you are a good player ZvT will probably be your favorite match up. Most Protoss players and Terran players will tell you how much of a pain Zerg is right now. In Korea Zerg is dominating by a landslide in Diamond ladder too.

So come back and play.

Though I'd be willing to give you a nice warm new Terran style welcome party.

PS: What happened it beta probably wasn't even remotely accurate anyway... everyone was terrible / didn't understand the game as much as they do now. People just played it all wrong.
Nice avatar.

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Now it's like the opposite and if you see MMM you get a free win as Zerg. Terran has been nerfed a ton since then... Hellions can no longer kite roach, reapers can no longer get speed till factory tech, tanks no longer do 50 to light ( 35 ), BC's damage reduction to ground, tons of upgrade scaling reduced ect, roachs got a range buff, Zerg building HP buffs all around, ect ect.

Right now its Zerg heaven. **** if you are a good player ZvT will probably be your favorite match up. Most Protoss players and Terran players will tell you how much of a pain Zerg is right now. In Korea Zerg is dominating by a landslide in Diamond ladder too.

So come back and play.

Though I'd be willing to give you a nice warm new Terran style welcome party.

PS: What happened it beta probably wasn't even remotely accurate anyway... everyone was terrible / didn't understand the game as much as they do now. People just played it all wrong.
Idk about that, MMM still rapes TvZ. Have you ever tried out that SK build? It's basically nothing but marines, ravens, tanks or thors and getting fast upgrades off of double ebays. It RAPES. You're trading mineral only units for gas units and basically trying to suck the zerg try for gas while you use your gas for upgrades. 3/3 marines literally crap on just about anything when you have enough of them pumping out constantly, banes, roaches, mutas, actually pretty much every zerg unit.

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That seem to be the go to build these days in pro level TvZ, but even then most have a hard time with either muta bane or some other combo with roach. Every time I see those banes rolling I feel sorry for T's.
    
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Zerg run show. I'm a high rank platinum who started as rank 70 bronze and went thru ALL the rankings and I'll tell you. Zerg at low levels SUCK! They dont' understand drone timing at all and that's the problem. I feel bad for the balance testers (keep up the good work David Kim aka dayvie) cause if they balance for low levels then pros take advantage of the buff or nerf...but if they balance for high levels then at low levels NOBODY can survive ahah. i find it funny, but blizzard is diong an AWESOME job of staying on top of these changes.
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Zerg run show. I'm a high rank platinum who started as rank 70 bronze and went thru ALL the rankings and I'll tell you. Zerg at low levels SUCK! They dont' understand drone timing at all and that's the problem. I feel bad for the balance testers (keep up the good work David Kim aka dayvie) cause if they balance for low levels then pros take advantage of the buff or nerf...but if they balance for high levels then at low levels NOBODY can survive ahah. i find it funny, but blizzard is diong an AWESOME job of staying on top of these changes.
There's no need to balance lower leagues since anything in those leagues can be defeated through macro with proper scouting. Blizzard balances at the pro level and actually speaks to pro players (or high ranking players in ladder of course).
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, but blizzard is diong an AWESOME job of staying on top of these changes.
They [blizzard] are?
    
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That seems normal. A barracks is just about my tenth structure when I'm playing as Zerg.




.....wait, what?
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That seems normal. A barracks is just about my tenth structure when I'm playing as Zerg.
infestors stealing enemy workers ftw

doubt that would work in pro matches though, it's hard enough maxing/teching up 1 army...
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Funny, since that's from makaprime vs oGsthewind.
    
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infestors stealing enemy workers ftw

doubt that would work in pro matches though, it's hard enough maxing/teching up 1 army...
@5:45

Those players are pretty pro in my opinion.
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