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Originally Posted by poroboszcz View Post
Like mkp, taking 2nd place at the GSL 2 times in a row, making tanks in almost every TvP. What a noob!
You mean the guy who Artosis and Tasteless said that TvP wasn't his strong point? Also the guy who played 95% Zergs to get there? Also did you not noticed that yks mentioned that against the Korean style tanks are probably fine.. but they don't play that against NA style. NA style would crush that Terran style ( which is why I don't build tanks much ).


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Naama would disagree when he steamrolled mana in the dreamhacks finals.
Nony said how European Protoss players don't know how to beat tanks for some reason. He talked about how gimmicky tank play is and you can pretty much just walk in and kill them at any point if you know what you're doing.
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My thoughts alike, EMPing those immortals would mean that the tanks have a field day with them, it's 50 vs. armored and let's not forget MMM which will be at the front doing some damage
Terran should be dead long before tanks and ghosts. Tanks + Ghosts means the main chunk of your army will suck. If you see tank play there is a huge timing window of opportunity.
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You mean the guy who Artosis and Tasteless said that TvP wasn't his strong point? Also the guy who played 95% Zergs to get there? Also did you not noticed that yks mentioned that against the Korean style tanks are probably fine.. but they don't play that against NA style. NA style would crush that Terran style ( which is why I don't build tanks much ).
Can someone fill me in on this NA and KR style?
    
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Terran should be dead long before tanks and ghosts. Tanks + Ghosts means the main chunk of your army will suck. If you see tank play there is a huge timing window of opportunity.
Well, I don't mean lots of ghosts, just 2-3 or so, so, that you can EMP several times
    
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Originally Posted by DoomDash View Post
This post is for vdek:


20 Supply of Zealots vs 20 Supply of Zerglings:

1 Zealot left.

20 Supply of Zealots vs 20 Supply of Speedlings:

4 Zerglings left.

20 Supply of Zealots vs 20 Supply of +1 Attack Speedlings:

16 Zerglings left.

20 Supply of +1 Zealots vs 20 Supply of +1 Attack Speedlings:

7 Zealots left.

20 Supply of +1 Zealots vs 20 Supply of +1 Armor Speedlings:

12 Zerglings left.



No micro at all for any.

So +1 attack instead of +1 armor vs +1 Zealots = you get raped.
Just to fix up his math


But you get the idea.
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Well, I don't mean lots of ghosts, just 2-3 or so, so, that you can EMP several times
Yeah but your army will be considerably weaker and slower to get the numbers you need to really take advantage of those EMP's. It's a double edged sword. I do agree it could be good, but it has a very very weak point to it.
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Terran should be dead long before tanks and ghosts. Tanks + Ghosts means the main chunk of your army will suck. If you see tank play there is a huge timing window of opportunity.
Yeah...this is why I asked if there have been specific instances of it happening. I just can't find any good use for Ghosts as they're so late in the game, so easy to kill, need research for everything (even cloaking), and don't have such superb abilities anyway.
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Yeah...this is why I asked if there have been specific instances of it happening. I just can't find any good use for Ghosts as they're so late in the game, so easy to kill, need research for everything (even cloaking), and don't have such superb abilities anyway.
Well ghosts are pretty good I work them in my own builds vs Protoss before I even get starports TBH, even off of 2 rax FE's. I might skip them if I see fast Colossus though.
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Ladder Win-Rate Wise (win rate not points)

KR: 1st) Zerg, 2nd) Terran, 3rd) Toss
EU: 1st) Terran, 2nd) Toss, 3rd) Zerg
NA: 1st) Protoss, 2nd) Terran, 3rd) Zerg

Basically, Terran in EU and KR using Tanks against P are going to be a future soon. As its already the trend in KR ladder.

NA Terran doing it though will get pwnt by most the NA Protoss cause NA Protoss is still stuck on their ROBO play. Which is slowly dieing out everywhere else. MC's lack (or none-of, I don't remember) of Colossi in the finals is the start
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Ladder Win-Rate Wise (win rate not points)

KR: 1st) Zerg, 2nd) Terran, 3rd) Toss
EU: 1st) Terran, 2nd) Toss, 3rd) Zerg
NA: 1st) Protoss, 2nd) Terran, 3rd) Zerg

Basically, Terran in EU and KR using Tanks against P are going to be a future soon. As its already the trend in KR ladder.

NA Terran doing it though will get pwnt by most the NA Protoss cause NA Protoss is still stuck on their ROBO play. Which is slowly dieing out everywhere else. MC's lack (or none-of, I don't remember) of Colossi in the finals is the start
Interesting that Z is in the final place in EU/NA but not KR. Likely due to them being able to better macro than their EU/NA counterparts. Nice that the strats are changed, wonder what the route is though, since, zealots+stalker+colossi is the usual P in my games
    
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