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I did it the other day in a 2v2, had about 8 OC's feeding 15 raxs with 10 reactors and 2 starports with 2 reactors. Lose an army, remake it within a minute. Heh. Each base would get mined out so quickly because of all the mules...
Thing is, in 2vs2, you can afford to make many OCs because of relying on your partner, however, in 1vs1, sometimes you are trading armies and building many OCs even our time can cause you issues. Don't help if you have to keep your resources low either
    
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Are they at the pro level and have they refined the build enough that they're confident enough to use it in a $88K tournament?
Doesn't matter, point is, it wasn't boxer's idea, not sure who thought of mass OCs first, he's just making it more viable =)
    
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Figured out a faster baneling bust against AI. Takes about a minute less time than the older bust I've been using against Terrans. Haven't tried it against human opponents yet.

drone to 10
extractor - 9/10
drone to 10
extractor trick - 11/10
overlord
put 2 drones on gas
pool
drone to 16
metabolic boost as soon as pool is done
queen - 18/18
baneling nest - 17/18
zergling for scouting - 18/18
overlord
overlord - 18/34
move one more drone onto gas
queen appears, spawn immediately
zerglings to 28/34
morph 8 banelings at about 5:15
zerglings until banelings finish morphing
- - - - -
attack the enemy ramp at about 5:45 with 12 speedlings and 8 banelings, 4 lings running across map to reinforce the attack, 8 lings in production and rallied to the point of attack.
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Figured out a faster baneling bust against AI. Takes about a minute less time than the older bust I've been using against Terrans. Haven't tried it against human opponents yet.

drone to 10
extractor - 9/10
drone to 10
extractor trick - 11/10
overlord
put 2 drones on gas
pool
drone to 16
metabolic boost as soon as pool is done
queen - 18/18
baneling nest - 17/18
zergling for scouting - 18/18
overlord
overlord - 18/34
move one more drone onto gas
queen appears, spawn immediately
zerglings to 28/34
morph 8 banelings at about 5:15
zerglings until banelings finish morphing
- - - - -
attack the enemy ramp at about 5:45 with 12 speedlings and 8 banelings, 4 lings running across map to reinforce the attack, 8 lings in production and rallied to the point of attack.
Nice, never tried to bane bust any opponent before Have you tried posting this on battle.net or TL?
    
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Unless you're participating in tournaments, what's the point of spending time refining an all-in?
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Nice, never tried to bane bust any opponent before Have you tried posting this on battle.net or TL?


I want to see how well it works first. I have a good baneling bust that hits between 6:45 and 7 minutes, but I wanted something a little faster. The better Terran players can defend a bust at 7 minutes.
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Unless you're participating in tournaments, what's the point of spending time refining an all-in?
Baneling bust is not necessarily an all-in. If you do it right gas and mineral production will be strong enough to start a lair while the attack is in progress. I've even had lair done and an expo half finished before the attack was over.
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Baneling bust is not necessarily an all-in. If you do it right gas and mineral production will be strong enough to start a lair while the attack is in progress. I've even had lair done and an expo half finished before the attack was over.
What's your drone count after the baneling bust?
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What's your drone count after the baneling bust?
Good question. I'll have to go back and look. My 7 minute bust works pretty well but I don't have all the details written down. I know I always end up accumulating more resources than I can spend on the larvae from one hatchery, so I usually start a lair or extra queens while the attack is still ongoing.
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Good question. I'll have to go back and look. My 7 minute bust works pretty well but I don't have all the details written down. I know I always end up accumulating more resources than I can spend on the larvae from one hatchery, so I usually start a lair or extra queens while the attack is still ongoing.
That is a great idea. As long as you have a mid and long term plan, then it doesnt really sound like an all in. The fact that you still scout your opponent kinda puts me at ease with this strat of yours.

WHat kind of strategies would mess up this order from your opponents's point of view (bunker rush, 2 rax marine push etc..)
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