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lol I'm watching TLO's stream and I have to say, Terrans in German sound way cooler biggrin.gif

edit: rofl the tank sometimes yells "RAWK N RAWL" xD
Edited by thiru - 1/4/11 at 11:31am
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The problem with a baneling bust is that if scouted its basically a waste of gas and minerals. You might get a few supply depots or bunkers and if none of has rines die and hes teching to stim than that could mean a GG in the near future.
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Originally Posted by thiru;11885758 
Unless you're participating in tournaments, what's the point of spending time refining an all-in?

It's always good to perfect several different builds for all races. For example, in a tournament if your playing a best of 7 you don't want to do the same exact build every game, and keep your opponent on his toes. Psychologically if you beat your opponent early with cheese he may prepare for the same cheese, or make mistakes all of which benefits you.
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Originally Posted by thiru;11885758 
Unless you're participating in tournaments, what's the point of spending time refining an all-in?

The same as in refining any other strategy or element of your play. What do tournaments have to do with it? It's a part of the game unless you plan on staying in like bronze forever.
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Originally Posted by cory1234;11888185 
It's always good to perfect several different builds for all races. For example, in a tournament if your playing a best of 7 you don't want to do the same exact build every game, and keep your opponent on his toes. Psychologically if you beat your opponent early with cheese he may prepare for the same cheese, or make mistakes all of which benefits you.
I said outside of tournaments.
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The same as in refining any other strategy or element of your play. What do tournaments have to do with it? It's a part of the game unless you plan on staying in like bronze forever.
So if you were giving advice to a bronze player, you'd tell him to practice all-in strats?
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Originally Posted by thiru;11887949 
edit: Rofl the tank sometimes yells "rawk n rawl" xd
XD XD

What's wrong with all-ins? Of course, you'll want your bronze friend to learn how to play the game first, but, he should know about the different all-ins smile.gif
    
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I am bronze and my next few games I will be trying to get a 2rax working like IMMvp... not sure it will benefit me too much in Bronze but I like the looks of it smile.gif
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Originally Posted by thiru;11888226 
I said outside of tournaments.

So if you were giving advice to a bronze player, you'd tell him to practice all-in strats?

Doesn't matter all-in or not. Refined builds are essential on the ladder as much as they are in tournaments. Probably a bronze player would have more fundamental issues, but I can't see why practicing a smooth build order execution, thus learning some of these fundamentals, wouldn't help.
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Well, try all the strategies, even all ins. Because in bronze, you can get away with a lot of things, and you can even set yourself behind with agression strategies that weaken your late game economy and still be able to pull ahead. WIth this strategy you will learn:

- Baneling micro (when to send lings first, and when to send banes first etc...)
- Baneling strenghts and weaknesses
- Your strenghts and weaknesses regarding micro, controling speed lings and banelings, recovering from a weakened economy etc...
- Keeping pressure on your opponent early and holding him/her boxed in.

every strategy should teach you something, even all-ins or economy-weak strategies.
Heck, who knows, eventually you might find a sweet spot where you can early expand AND at the same time baneling tech to bust up a terran concentrating on barrak units etc. Something good can come of it if you perfect it and tweak it around different matchups and unit compositions from your opponents.
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Originally Posted by Nevaziah;11888396 
Well, try all the strategies, even all ins. Because in bronze, you can get away with a lot of things, and you can even set yourself behind with agression strategies that weaken your late game economy and still be able to pull ahead. WIth this strategy you will learn:

- Baneling micro (when to send lings first, and when to send banes first etc...)
- Baneling strenghts and weaknesses
- Your strenghts and weaknesses regarding micro, controling speed lings and banelings, recovering from a weakened economy etc...
- Keeping pressure on your opponent early and holding him/her boxed in.

every strategy should teach you something, even all-ins or economy-weak strategies.
Heck, who knows, eventually you might find a sweet spot where you can early expand AND at the same time baneling tech to bust up a terran concentrating on barrak units etc. Something good can come of it if you perfect it and tweak it around different matchups and unit compositions from your opponents.
Pretty much true smile.gif You can get away with a lot in Bronze, likely in Silver, possibly Gold as well, doubt it in Plat or Diamond tongue.gif
    
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