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Well it's been said that SCII is a CPU intensive game. From LinusTechTips he tested a 580 vs the 480 and there was pretty much no FPS gain because it was bottlenecked by the CPU.

I really hate the way SCII is programmed.
hmm, well, I'm testing now @ stock versus my oc to 3Ghz and likely will see some difference. I dislike it as well, would've preferred a more crysis type approach with less emphasis on cpu but such is the way of Blizz

I haven't done any OCing yet on my 570 so I can probably get a couple more fps even if I turn lights to max
    
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Interesting concept, won't work though. Imagine playing an RTS on that I can see it working for WoW and some other games, but, the mouse+keyboard combo will still reign supreme
    
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Interesting concept, won't work though. Imagine playing an RTS on that I can see it working for WoW and some other games, but, the mouse+keyboard combo will still reign supreme
Well for RTS/FPS you could just use a mouse and be fine. I was more thinking of Diablo III on that.
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I know, thing is I've only got so many I also wanted to see the difference across the spectrum(old and new). Based on what I'm seeing, I can see a bottleneck for SC2, not good :/

Edit: BTW, curious what's your fps for SC2 @ 1080p everything at ultra(lights at low)? I didn't find a crazy difference(better min, max but avg isn't to my liking :/).
Play the game and check GPU usage. Its its very low the CPU is holding you back. I get like 40% GPU usage with CPU @ 2.8Ghz and ~ 66% with CPU @ 4.4Ghz.
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Play the game and check GPU usage. Its its very low the CPU is holding you back. I get like 40% GPU usage with CPU @ 2.8Ghz and ~ 66% with CPU @ 4.4Ghz.
Will do, playing to test it out @ stock against my 3Ghz oc then move from there. I'm still trying to find the best program to track and record cpu usage. I guess I could always alt-tab out as a game is going to check but not sure how much of a good idea that is :/
    
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All I know is that Tonight will be the most epic GSL4 day so far

July, MC, Nada, Inca.
When I get home in two hours I will be getting to watch yesterdays games... well I will try as I am going directly from a night shift to a works function with my wife that is starting at 09:30 and only ending at 21:30 (I might not even make all the code S games and I so want to watch LiquidRet also )
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LOL in that video tan looks so serious for some wierd reason. It's like he's overacting in an bollywood film.
    
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yes, I'm well aware of the timing when an exp is going down because of that shortage, however, when I scouted it, it was a little too late. He already had it pop and got the larvae from it which meant that he would be able to support his troops as well as I would be able to especially when distances are taken into out. I think I tried to exp but his slings > slings which made it difficult to expand just yet :/

According to masterlaw, he said that my 2nd hatch inbase was a bad idea which makes me wonder how your supposed to defend against mass slings with only one hatchery. I guess crawlers are the answer then :/
Hey Guys, it's masterlaw... Just found the thread. On Holiday in Dominican Republic...

Ok ZVZ is a mirror match so you try to mirror your opponent. I've watch a lot of what PSY had to say about this and I agree and disagree with some of it.

I tend to always open 11-12 hatch with ZvZ because there are some noobs that still do the 8 pool rush which will not work on 11 pool and if you are good you can get away with 12 pool.

There are 3 openings for zerg that I know.

ling/bane rush
mass ling
Roach

You need to know what counters what.

-Mass ling you'll need ling/bane, separate the banes as 1 bane is all that is needed to kill many lings. This also prevents him rushing a small group of lings at your banes to take them all out.

-Ling/Bane
Spine at at end of creep closest to bridge (1-2 spread out so splash does not hurt)
Lings/Banes to counter do not use banes on his morphing eggs takes 3 banes to kill and not cost effective. send 1-2 lings at banes directly to make him waste
Banes for the lings

After holding initial attack 4 roaches to ramp will hold the ramp, and you can either roach up fully, and push if he continues lings/blings and push out when you have 10+ roaches. Mix a few banes to take out big clumps of lings and leave enough roaches to block the ramp to stop run by while you head to the base.

If he roaches up, you expand and sit outside his base denying him his exp while you gain map control and you expand. This will make most players over roach and deny's them a exp for a long time. If you do this, you should Muta, since you have 4 gas's and will rotflstomp.

-Roach play

This usually needs 2 bases, and I always open with speed lings. If he expands early, your lings should be split into two groups. 1 group hits the hatch, if he moves out to attack the lings you run the other lings up the ramp to hit the main. So if he's smart he's forced to sit on the ramp and stop the exp or let it die if it's finished. At this point you should have already expanded yourself and had about 4-6 roaches coming out. Never loose the lings though unless you do huge eco damage. By the time the slow roaches get to your base, you will have enough roaches to defend and a spine up + you'll have an exp. He'll be forced to retreat. Chase if you can because while you do you should be macroing up and he'll be roaching up thinking he needs to defend. Just run away when he get's his reinforcements, and by the time you get to your base you should have another batch of roaches to hold and you'll be way ahead on drone count along with money upgrades ect.




Double hatch is rarely good because you you cannot support it early game with drone count, early exp is not very good either. Anyone that does 14 pool expand vs my 11-12 hatch dies for sure, because I just ling bane them. they will not have enough money and will not be able to use the 2nd hatch effectively because I'm always attacking with speed lings/banes.

Btw I'm 2600 now and Doom, I think I have an answer to your build now.
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