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no clue, lol.

Someone get on, let's get some games going!
    
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guys i'm having an argument with a friend. he says the correct term for building a wall of buildings to stop your enemy from going through is called a "wall in" and I hear "wall off". which one is right?
Haha, really? Does it even matter? I have used both, as well as choked, blocked, etc...
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Don't miss GSL tonight!!

MarineKing vs CLIDDEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don't miss GSL tonight!!

MarineKing vs CLIDDEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
TvsT, how boring

Well, finally won tonight Went 2-1, although the first game(PvsT) that I won was ridiculous. The guy I was playing against had only marines by the time I attacked with colossi and tried a 2 rax attack early on which did some decent damage first time(lost lots of probes) but nothing the next.

[funny game]

My TvsZ was a nightmare though. I decided to try a 2 rax FE although my timings were messed up and I wasn't able to take out the exp, but, at least I delayed it(engineering bay). He went fast roach when he saw the 2 rax and was able to kill the marines as I ran them away after doing some damage, but, not enough :/ He then attacked with his roaches and I was able to hold on even though I only had a marauder and a bunker XD

Expanded after that because I had a cc all finished and tried to tech up to tanks for banes. Then he comes in with my 10 mutalisks, does some damage and runs away from my marines I was able to recover and decided to go for a drop, 5 medivacs with 2 thors, with marines(upgraded +1/+1). I did some damage but lost all my units minus 4 medivacs. Well, I learned my lesson there So, I went for good old MMMT+ 2 thors + some vikings and just as I was able to move out, he comes with a ton of slings+banes+at least 13 BLs. Well, you can guess the rest Should've realized that he was teching up because he was mostly doing general harass with mutas and nothing else :/
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Muta's are great at buying time for teching / expanding.
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yup muta's are awesome for harassing and dangerous in grps
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Muta's are great at buying time for teching / expanding.
The thing is, I just knew he was going for mutas(most Zs do and I always do), so, I should've gotten a bay much faster, but, I seem to delay that like my evo chamber. His BLs just took me by surprise. My thought was that I'll seige up infront, with my MMM+thors, his mutas wouldn't attack and I'll use my thors for protection against banes to absorb their damage. Seems like scouting is my biggest issue and is really my main cause for loses because I only realize what my opponent builds when they move out, so, if I don't have the tech to counter, then it's pretty much GG, although, spending is also another

[rant]

Like my last ZvsT on meta, we were close to each other, me @ 6 and him @ 3. He tries a bunker push right after my exp finishes and I had a 2 crawlers in the making. I was able to take out an SCV but the second bunker finished just in time. He kept on attacking then moving back to safety. Eventually, I was able to take it out. Expanded after and went for a mixture of slings+banes+roaches+mutas. He attacks with MMMT, I take it out. He says that it's pretty much game over.

A bit later, attacks with thors, so, I had to withdraw my mutas and survive it only for him to attack with another small group of MMM+2 thors. I was still able to take this out but I had no clue he was going for thors. It's true that Z can tech switch faster than other races, but, with T/P, you get several units from the same structure, so, you can still surprise your opponent if you prevent them from scouting(switch from tanks to thors and back, gateways units, etc....).

I was planning to try a baneling drop onto his mineral line since I've never done it in a ladder game and he attacked right as I loaded the OLs, so, I rallied my units to attack and concentrated on dropping banes on top as well as possible, since, I started to get some crazy lag :/ The good thing about that game was that I was able to expand to a third fast enough and took a fourth(didn't get many workers on it), but, my mineral count was through the roof by the end because I had a ton of drones on minerals and could only makes so many units due to the number of hatcheries I had(4 hatcheries, 5th in new exp).

[/rant]

BTW, to address your micro point about banes from a previois post, its true that I usually *dump* my army onto my opponent's army because unlike pros, I have issues with spending and if I believe that my army can match my opponents, I don't mind losing it all then quickly rebuilding. Of course, there are certain units that I'll focus on if I believe they are a threat such as tanks or maybe marines first then marauders using mutas(provided I have sufficient amount). I do micro a lot in the early game since I'm usually limited on units, but, not as much late game

^^Unless you don't magic box and they have thors or hts for storm
Edited by BigFan - 1/9/11 at 10:28pm
    
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BTW, to address your micro point about banes from a previois post, its true that I usually *dump* my army onto my opponent's army because unlike pros, I have issues with spending and if I believe that my army can match my opponents, I don't mind losing it all then quickly rebuilding. Of course, there are certain units that I'll focus on if I believe they are a threat such as tanks or maybe marines first then marauders using mutas(provided I have sufficient amount). I do micro a lot in the early game since I'm usually limited on units, but, not as much late game

^^Unless you don't magic box and they have thors or hts for storm
Well you can only get away with that so long .


You vs my gf sometime ?
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Well you can only get away with that so long .


You vs my gf sometime ?
I know, but, when he has mostly MMM against my slings+banes, there isn't much of a reason to try to target his units because the splash of the banes will still get the marines, plus I have 3k+ minerals, so, I can keep on rebuilding slings for the next 5-10mins XD
Well, I'm up for it, although, it would bad if I lost XD

Edit: Now that I think about it, I play Z correctly. I mean I build enough units to survive the attack while collecting resources to get upgrades, etc.... and making more for the next attack(or counter attack) XD
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I know, but, when he has mostly MMM against my slings+banes, there isn't much of a reason to try to target his units because the splash of the banes will still get the marines, plus I have 3k+ minerals, so, I can keep on rebuilding slings for the next 5-10mins XD
Well, I'm up for it, although, it would bad if I lost XD
I don't think she'd beat you yet, but I think her mechanics are better than yours. She's just way way too passive right now, and she can't really identify Zerg structures or Protoss structures ( and what they do ).


As for your spending and micro, just remember you've lost games vs Cram I believe because of that thought process of yours, games you should have easily won.
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