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Pheonix's take a long time to kill roaches. If all he has are zealots, you will win if you do a roach push IMO.
I was trying to get away from that roach rush mentality. Unfortunately Blizzard is pushing zerg back in that direction.
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I like what HD did for the cliff. I think it might be better with a Nydus! Pretty cool game.

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I'm at work
I have work at 7 AM.

So are Zerg the most limited strategy wise? Are most plays based around roach maxxed and zerglings to supplement?
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Yeha Zerg really are limited in my opinion.
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Yeha Zerg really are limited in my opinion.
Its not so much that Zerg players are limited as we are reactive. Zerg players cannot just blindly go for, say, roaches vs terran or blindly go mass lings vs protoss etc..., and actually legitimately justify it. There is just too much at risk in the first 10 minutes of the game or so (or until lair tech) for making a lot of units of a certain type.

compare this with terran that can just say: im going blue flame hellion harass vs zerg, and it IS going to work unless the zerg counters it somehow. Or 2 barrax pressure, or 2gate for protoss etc..

Even the 7rr vs protoss that puts pressure on the opponent for the Zerg doesnt always work depending on what the protoss is doing (forge, wall off, proxygate, forcefields etc..)

But i do love how zerg can be easily prepared for ANYTHING and defeat it with the right scouting information and the correct basic response. (ex: see double gas early, no lings or roach warren, then make lotsa queens and tech to lair etc..)
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Vdek laddered yesterday! Everyone give him some congrats!
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Its not so much that Zerg players are limited as we are reactive. Zerg players cannot just blindly go for, say, roaches vs terran or blindly go mass lings vs protoss etc..., and actually legitimately justify it. There is just too much at risk in the first 10 minutes of the game or so (or until lair tech) for making a lot of units of a certain type.

compare this with terran that can just say: im going blue flame hellion harass vs zerg, and it IS going to work unless the zerg counters it somehow. Or 2 barrax pressure, or 2gate for protoss etc..

Even the 7rr vs protoss that puts pressure on the opponent for the Zerg doesnt always work depending on what the protoss is doing (forge, wall off, proxygate, forcefields etc..)

But i do love how zerg can be easily prepared for ANYTHING and defeat it with the right scouting information and the correct basic response. (ex: see double gas early, no lings or roach warren, then make lotsa queens and tech to lair etc..)
pretty much. As someone who used to play Z exclusively till a little over a month ago when i switched to random, i never entered a game with a plan. I had the basic structure against T/P: exp early(15 exp), get pool, bane nest(if T) or roach warren(if P) then just tech up and droning up. I would place 2 crawlers in exp and 1-2 in main and then drone up until I felt it was the right time to make units. I see opponent move out, I make units and use the drones to attack while they morph. He goes mass stalkers, I go for slings+mutas, he goes MMM, I go slings+banes, etc.... Zerg is a fun race to play, although, they can be really intensive due to spawn larvae, spread creep, etc....
    
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Thread is dead today, glad I went out.
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I can honestly say I play better with warm hands. My fingers feel stiff when they are cold. Spamming probably helps too but not nearly as much as having warm hands imo.

I havent played SC2 in a week. Been busy busy
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Back to terran, just needed a break from SC2. Toss and Zerg don't feel aggressive enough for me.
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