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Here it is everyone, my second project that I will be attempting. Overall, Project H20 Black Dragon was a success in that I learned alot and had alot of fun doing it. However it was stopped slightly early because of a few issues, and things like I need a more portable system. I hope everyone else also had a fun time following it and adding their own bits to make it even better. Maybe even FoRmEd could make me another niffty intro pic like he did for the Black Dragon


With my recent purchase of a 30in. Samsung Slim Fit HDTV and a Sony Surround Sound System (Model # STR-K660P) I will be making and modding my very own Media Center PC. I got the idea from a good site called cyberpowerpc.com. I decided why have a nice TV and Surround Sound and not a nice Media Center to go with it. Hopefully all will go to plan, and I can get my parts ordered quickly and start modding the case.

The Parts List
-Aspire Q-Pack Silver Color with 420W Aspire PSU (30a)
-AMD X2 3800+ CPU
-WD 200GB SATA II HD
-Biostar T-Force 6100
-2x1GB Gskill HZ
-Nvidia 7600GT
-Lite On 16x dual layer DVD-RW with Lightscribe
-Sony 16x DVDROM
-TV tuner card (not sure which yet)
-Windows XP Media Center 2005
-XP-90C (hopefully will fit in the case)

Eventually I will get a better PSU because I can't justify skimping on a bad PSU, however the Aspire will have to do for now. The reason I picked a 7600GT some of you may be wondering, is because eventually I will SLi them and they don't cost so much that it won't be out of the question. I saw some reviews on the 7xxx series and the 7600GT litterally had double the performance of a x1600XT and got a nice 70K AQ3 score with a stock FX-57.


The modding part of the case will come in because I will be overclocking this little beast. I am going to take the X2 3800+ to the max it can on stock volts (well maybe i'll kick it up a notch or two ) because I want to keep heat at a minumum. If I do decide to overclock to the max I will be modding the 3 windows on the case to support some low speed 90mm or even 120mm fans for some good airflow.

This is the start of Project: X-QPack 1.1. I will be ordering my parts later today so add any suggestions you guys have in now. This is a slight budget system because I don't have unlimited cash flow, but I think I did a good job of picking nice parts and getting a nice overall price out of it too. With shipping this system is going to cost about $1,100 which I think is great.

Lets do it!
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post #2 of 65
is this used as a Media Center PC or an extreme gaming unit (as well)
your parts are really heavy for just a MCPC, if you want this for capturing and watching TV and video editing and multimedia and such, 2 GB ram is not needed, that GPU is not needed,
and sorry, but NO that heatsink will most likely NOT fit in the case (unless you are modding the skeleton (frame) of it )
that mobo is good, CPU is also good, again heavy for a MPC, but seeing as your specs say SOLD im nnow starting to think that maybe this is your main computer for everything.

i have a TV tuner card, i used WinFast TV2000 XP, got it for $40 with video editing software, tv remote, antenna, the card itself has 1 TV tuner and 1 FM tuner

but i would recommend Hauppage (dual TV tuner card preferably)

with the money saved on toning down on some of those cutting-edge parts, i'd get a much larger HD (again, assuming this is mainly a MCPC)
im getting a list of parts for the ideal media center pc
    
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post #3 of 65
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Originally Posted by amd_hardsoftware
is this used as a Media Center PC or an extreme gaming unit (as well)
your parts are really heavy for just a MCPC, if you want this for capturing and watching TV and video editing and multimedia and such, 2 GB ram is not needed, that GPU is not needed,
and sorry, but NO that heatsink will most likely NOT fit in the case (unless you are modding the skeleton (frame) of it )
that mobo is good, CPU is also good, again heavy for a MPC, but seeing as your specs say SOLD im nnow starting to think that maybe this is your main computer for everything.

i have a TV tuner card, i used WinFast TV2000 XP, got it for $40 with video editing software, tv remote, antenna, the card itself has 1 TV tuner and 1 FM tuner

but i would recommend Hauppage (dual TV tuner card preferably)

with the money saved on toning down on some of those cutting-edge parts, i'd get a much larger HD (again, assuming this is mainly a MCPC)
im getting a list of parts for the ideal media center pc

Yes sorry, I forgot to mention that this is going to be my main play rig as well as a MCPC setup, sorry for the confusion.

I am still shopping around for a tuner card, almost all the ones I see on Newegg have very mixed reviews, none that I am too pleased with. I will look around some more for it.
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post #4 of 65
I have that case and I found the perfect heatsink for it. The zalman 7700 series fits perfect... with about .5 inch of clearance above and a nice channel for sucking cool air from the front.
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post #5 of 65
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Originally Posted by Fishie36
I have that case and I found the perfect heatsink for it. The zalman 7700 series fits perfect... with about .5 inch of clearance above and a nice channel for sucking cool air from the front.
Ah excellent, someone who has the case! I've read a few reviews about it that say it is overall a good case but is somewhat flimsy. Is this true? Also is there enough room to work around in and for pretty good airflow? Lastly, is the PSU that comes with it any good or should I look into getting a new one asap like I was planning?

Thanks alot for the good ideas already guys.
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WD 200GB SATA XP Pro Service Pack 3 Samsung 793 CRT Logitech Wired 
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post #6 of 65
Aspire X-Qpack with 420 W Aspire PSU(same)- $64.99
AMD Athlon X2 3800+(same as you chose)-$295.00
2X 250 GB Samsung HD (very cheap)-$180.00 total
Biostar T-Force 6100(same)-$69.00
Kingston Dual channel PC3200 1 GB-$68.00
ATI RadeonX800XL 256MB 980Mhz PCI-E 16x- $219.99
any opticals u want, os MCE
TV-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116628
    
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160GB WD DVD+-RW XP-games+Gentoo-programmin 21' Sun CRT (pwns LCD) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Regular PS/2 "Quietkey" 680WEchoStar+500Wforfans Uber-modded SuperTower(got for $16!)dual PSU+LEDs USB Optical Dell *ewww, dell* 
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Originally Posted by amd_hardsoftware
Aspire X-Qpack with 420 W Aspire PSU(same)- $64.99
AMD Athlon X2 3800+(same as you chose)-$295.00
2X 250 GB Samsung HD (very cheap)-$180.00 total
Biostar T-Force 6100(same)-$69.00
Kingston Dual channel PC3200 1 GB-$68.00
ATI RadeonX800XL 256MB 980Mhz PCI-E 16x- $219.99
any opticals u want, os MCE
TV-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815116628
That is a pretty nice setup you made. Real nice HD deals also. However that RAM and Video card aren't going to cut it for me, I'm going to go more high end for those.

Thanks for the Tuner Card recomendation, I'll look into some reviews for that.
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Originally Posted by zerohour
Ah excellent, someone who has the case! I've read a few reviews about it that say it is overall a good case but is somewhat flimsy. Is this true? Also is there enough room to work around in and for pretty good airflow? Lastly, is the PSU that comes with it any good or should I look into getting a new one asap like I was planning?

Thanks alot for the good ideas already guys.
Yes it's very flimsey. I accidentally bent the shell once while taking it off because it stays on really tight. Also you could probably bend most of the metal in there with two fingers. But once it's all put together and screwed down nothing can touch it. It's quite vulnerable while taken apart is all I'm saying.

About the PSU... I've heard good and bad things. My experience with it has been good for the most part... but it seems a little weak. I have it running all the hardware in my sig plus a fan controller and four fans and the 12V dips from 15.54 to 11.98 under load - not overclocked. When overclocked I've seen it go as low as 11.5V but everything still ran fine so I didn't think much of it.
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Originally Posted by Fishie36
Yes it's very flimsey. I accidentally bent the shell once while taking it off because it stays on really tight. Also you could probably bend most of the metal in there with two fingers. But once it's all put together and screwed down nothing can touch it. It's quite vulnerable while taken apart is all I'm saying.

About the PSU... I've heard good and bad things. My experience with it has been good for the most part... but it seems a little weak. I have it running all the hardware in my sig plus a fan controller and four fans and the 12V dips from 15.54 to 11.98 under load - not overclocked. When overclocked I've seen it go as low as 11.5V but everything still ran fine so I didn't think much of it.
Ok, I will be sure to be careful when everything is apart. Thanks for the info on the PSU, this makes me think I should buy a new PSU liked I planned. I figure with a dual core CPU, powerful memory, and a 7xxx series card it would be a good investment. Something like the NUUO would power that all for pretty cheap, or an Fortron Source PSU. Does the cash support normal ATX PSUs? I really don't know how big this thing is...

Also, do you have any pics of your setup Fishie?
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this ram is pretty good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144114
how much better than 16 pipelines and 980 MHz do you want? i dont really know specs of 7800, maybe you could show me how much better it is than X800 XT
but you can get a X1800 (better than a 7800 i think) anyway mem clock is 1500 MHz stock, 1800 MHz stable i heard, cant get any faster than that in 2006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102007
    
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KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Regular PS/2 "Quietkey" 680WEchoStar+500Wforfans Uber-modded SuperTower(got for $16!)dual PSU+LEDs USB Optical Dell *ewww, dell* 
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