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So I'm looking to build a new system that will primarily be used for 3D modeling/rendering/animation and gaming. I'm looking for a machine that is capable of importing/exporting and editing multi-million poly objects in Zbrush as well as handling complex scenes in programs like Maya and 3ds Max. As far as gaming goes, the minimum res I want supported is 1920x1200, but I'm looking to go with a tri-monitor setup by the end of the year, so SLI/Crossfire is pretty much a must, although not necessarily needed initially. I am interested in doing fairly extensive overclocking.

These are the parts I'm currently looking at. The case, Win7 x64, and primary storage drive I already have, and I'll be reusing the 500 gig drives from my current system. The SSD will be used exclusively for the OS, 3D apps, and whatever project(s) I'm currently working on and I'll use the 500 gigs for my games and other apps (possibly in RAID, although I'm not quite sure).

CPU: i7-930 ($200 at Microcenter)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
RAM: OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 1600
PSU: Corsair 850HX
GPU: EVGA GTX 470 x2 (or whatever has the best warranty and is the cheapest)
SSD: OCZ Vertex 60GB

Already owned: HAF X, Western Digital 2TB, Win 7 x64

Excluding the parts I already have, that's around 1500-1600 worth of parts. The two areas I'm most unsure of are the SSD and the RAM. I've heard new SSD's are coming out by the end of the year that will raise capacity/lower costs, so I'm not sure how smart an investment the older Vertex series would be now. As for the RAM, I've heard mixed things about the quality, despite being one of the higher rated sets on Newegg. My biggest question now is, should I drop the SSD now and put that money towards another 6 gigs of RAM, and then just pick up one of the newer models next year? Or should I go with the configuration I have now? I feel like there is still optimization that could be done to get the best performance out of this system while opening up my budget for monitors and other accessories in the coming months.

As far as CPU coolers go, I'm torn between the Noctua NH-D14, the Corsair H50, and the Titan Fenrir. Any suggestions there? I'm not opposed to custom watercooling, but I'd need to research it more and it's a project I'd undertake later down the road. For now it's all air (or in the case of the H50, "baby's first watercooler")

Any input/advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm looking to have all the core components purchased by late August since I'm giving the system in my signature to my brother before he goes back to school (sans the 26" monitor and hard drives).
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Other good air coolers:
Thermalright TRUE or Ven-x
Megahalem
cant-remember-exact-name Arrow something.

I will say i am happy with my H50, but i want to go full custom water, i just picked it since i LAN a lot, and dont like the idea of a big cooler rocking around warping my mobo when im moving my computer, throw some good fans+shrouds on it, and its a damn good cooler, not the best, but up there with the good air coolers.

I have heard bad things about the OCZ "gold" series, but maybe another member can give more info about that, otherwise it looks like a damn right good build, the 470s are gonna be monsters for 3D stuff.
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If you're really serious about the 3D modeling applications you may want to get a Quadro or FireGL series card. Even a cheaper Quadro card will outperform the high end gaming cards. But, the Workstation card will be crap for gaming.
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@Fooxz: Ah, the Megahalem! I knew I had forgotten a cooler. What fans would you recommend for the H50?

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If you're really serious about the 3D modeling applications you may want to get a Quadro or FireGL series card. Even a cheaper Quadro card will outperform the high end gaming cards. But, the Workstation card will be crap for gaming.
I'd thought about getting a real workstation card, but like you said, most workstation cards offer poorer game performance, even if it's only due to different optimizations in drivers. Not to mention the price (although with two 470's I guess you could argue price isn't as much an issue). I do plan on splitting the workload between 3D work and games fairly evenly though, so I would still like strong gaming performance. And it was my understanding that consumer level cards had become much better at 3D rendering than in the past. Still, it's definitely something I will look into more, even if it's for a more dedicated workstation box in the future.
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Sorry for the quick bump but I was looking at these sticks and figured I'd try to get some input.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...E20-231-304-TS

Any suggestions as to which would wrk best, especially with overclocking in mind? The G.Skill Trident sticks are about as high as I wanna go price-wise.

I'm also still unsure of whether a SSD is a smart investment right now. If it's more prudent to wait then I'd put that money towards another 6 gigs of RAM. If I were to go to 12 gigs, would it make more sense to buy two 6 gig packs or 1 12? Or does it really make a difference?
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Those Ripjaws are fine.

These are the same price as the XMS3 but with better timings.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226030
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If you're really serious about the 3D modeling applications you may want to get a Quadro or FireGL series card. Even a cheaper Quadro card will outperform the high end gaming cards. But, the Workstation card will be crap for gaming.
Any serious 3D work including 3ds, autocad inventer, maya, sketchup, Will want a real workstation eg Quadro,FireGL. If your doing any larger models youll want more that 6gb of the bat. Its not so much the hardware in the workstation cards but more in there optimised drivers and software. 100x more reliable than a gaming GPU. However i use my HD4870 for 3d models but i have to save all the time because it crashes alot. partly because it runs out of dedicated video ram. anyway just my 2 cents. Looks like a nice system so far
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Those Ripjaws are fine.

These are the same price as the XMS3 but with better timings.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226030
I'm leaning towards the Ripjaws due to my own experience with G.Skill. Never had Mushkin before, how do they compare?

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Any serious 3D work including 3ds, autocad inventer, maya, sketchup, Will want a real workstation eg Quadro,FireGL. If your doing any larger models youll want more that 6gb of the bat. Its not so much the hardware in the workstation cards but more in there optimised drivers and software. 100x more reliable than a gaming GPU. However i use my HD4870 for 3d models but i have to save all the time because it crashes alot. partly because it runs out of dedicated video ram. anyway just my 2 cents. Looks like a nice system so far
Yeah I'm using a 4870 now and haven't had too many problems when it comes to rendering. I've found I'm much more limited by my CPU/RAM. I'd love to get real workstation cards, but unfortunately I think I'd have to sacrifice serious gaming performance to do that.

Would you recommend getting 12 gigs of RAM instead of a SSD? The extra RAM would certainly help for high poly work, but I don't know if an SSD would improve overall performance.
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Yeah you know i think i would go with more ram over the SSD. The ssd will make your models load a lot quicker and the programs installed on the ssd will open alot faster. but once your in a model i dont see much performance over a HDD. But the more ram you have the better with large 3d models filled with textures. So ram would be the way to go on the modeling side of things. Also i have a feeling SSD capacitys will increase and prices will drop in the near future.
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Cool, so if I go with the 12 gigs of RAM that leaves me with 2 questions hardware wise. Should I just grab two 6 gig kits or one 12 (or does it matter?), and what heatsink should I go with? I was originally leaning towards the NH-D14 but I think that may not be possible with 12 gigs due to it's massive size (unless of course I'm wrong?) That would leave the H50, the Fenrir, or the Megahalem. I've also been looking at the Thermaltake Frio (awesome design) but haven't found much end-user support, just tech site benchmarks. I really like the design/cleanliness of the H50, but it seems like the other coolers I'm looking at beat it pretty soundly.
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