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Hey .. im new a little to the performance PC... i built my comp myself and now i need to upgrade. I want to make something that can handle games like BF2... i plan on buying a new video card but want to upgrade my ram first. Is it bad that i have 768 total physical memory.. but only 403 mb total available physical memory? if so how do i fix this? I have 1 256 Mb stick and a 512mb stick (333 Pc2700) If i want to play games should i get the 400 PC3200.. thats the highest my board accepts. Or should i just add a gig to what i have and will it be fine? Also if i plan on adding a gig, should i do it in a 1 gig stick or 2 512mb stick and whats the difference?
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add one gig and go dual channel if your mobo supports it. ex: 2x512 pc 3200 replace what you have now dont mix and match ocz is good stuff.
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i dno if my mother board supports dual channel... i have a Shuttle Av49vn. whats dual channel do anyway?
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Heres some info on your mobo sir:

AV49VN Description CPU Support Intel Socket 478, Pentium 4 & Celeron CPU with 400/533 MHz FSB CHIPSET VIA P4X400 + VT8235 FORM FACTOR ATX MEMORY Support DDR200/266/333/400 SDRAM, 3 x 184 pin DIMM, Up to 3GB, Only 1 bank for DDR400 IDE / S-ATA / RAID ATA133 EXPANSION SLOT One 8X AGP slot, 5 PCI slots BUILT IN AUDIO / VIDEO AC97 2 Channel audio / No VGA on board USB 6 USB 2.0 LAN VIA VT6103 10/100 Fast Ethernet.

does that look familiar..and according to this you only have 1 slot for ddr 400, you could always look for a 2gb stick but those are expensive..it dosnt say that it supports dual channel ddr either so i dont know about other speeds, but and according to another info that im reading you have 3- 184pin slots that support 3 different speeds, each one of the slots being 3-way compatible so id say stick with the type you already have, unless you throw that out and get ddr400 (which is better) but its totally your decision..go with the cheaper alternative and have more ram..or get ddr400 3 sticks max, and throw away what you have and be able to push the cpu a little more
    
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Heres some info on your mobo sir:

AV49VN Description CPU Support Intel Socket 478, Pentium 4 & Celeron CPU with 400/533 MHz FSB CHIPSET VIA P4X400 + VT8235 FORM FACTOR ATX MEMORY Support DDR200/266/333/400 SDRAM, 3 x 184 pin DIMM, Up to 3GB, Only 1 bank for DDR400 IDE / S-ATA / RAID ATA133 EXPANSION SLOT One 8X AGP slot, 5 PCI slots BUILT IN AUDIO / VIDEO AC97 2 Channel audio / No VGA on board USB 6 USB 2.0 LAN VIA VT6103 10/100 Fast Ethernet.

does that look familiar..and according to this you only have 1 slot for ddr 400, you could always look for a 2gb stick but those are expensive..it dosnt say that it supports dual channel ddr either so i dont know about other speeds, but and according to another info that im reading you have 3- 184pin slots that support 3 different speeds, each one of the slots being 3-way compatible so id say stick with the type you already have, unless you throw that out and get ddr400 (which is better) but its totally your decision..go with the cheaper alternative and have more ram..or get ddr400 3 sticks max, and throw away what you have and be able to push the cpu a little more
hey thanks for that.. i couldnt find that info. But how do you know it has only one slot that supports DDR 400? and which slot would that be? so would it be a waste of time and money to buy all new memory? Or can i put two sticks of 1 Gb DDR400 in there?

Also is there a diff in performance between a 1gb stick or 2 512 mb (same speed..ddr 400 all that)
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theres not much of a difference..maybe even not a noticeable difference but according to this info it says you only have 1 ddr400 slot, i wouldnt know...you should look at you mobo and see if 1slot is different from the rest and get back to me
    
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post #7 of 13
It may be a better idea to buy a new motherboard which supports dual channel, you can find them for a relatively cheap price. That way, you can get some better ram, and possibly better OCing features too.
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You know, as that is an older P4 Mainboard. You may want to look around for a different platform to drop money into.

However: You can pick up 2 x 512mb, or 2 x 1gb pc 3200 dimms, and they will just function at 333. This may be the way to go as prices don't change much between ddr speeds. However, that being said. Your kind of bordering onthe cusp of antiquity.

Figure if you get a new Video card, it's AGP. This means, in a very short time, new motherboards that support that card are fewer and fewer, you will not be able to transit that card to a newer Mobo, cpu, etc. As well DDR is starting to finally fade. Not gone, gone. But definitely on it's way out.

Seeing as how technology wise, you'll be dropping a decent amount of money on a new video card, and ram for this older board. You won't however be able to pick up a new cpu for it w/o searching high and low.

So you'll have dumped a bunch of cash into an aging platform, that doesn't support dual channel (Crucial to p4, not so crucial to Athlon).

Perhaps you may want to look at your budget and see what is out there in a new mainboard that supports PCI-E, Dual channel DDR, or DDR 2 (DDR is going to be around longer then High end AGP, 478 chips, etc).

This would atleast ensure that you aren't dumping money into something you'll really want to upgrade by the end of the year. Better to have parts you can carry forward, non?

However, budget dictates it all. Just something to think about.
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Originally Posted by Darkskypoet
You know, as that is an older P4 Mainboard. You may want to look around for a different platform to drop money into.

However: You can pick up 2 x 512mb, or 2 x 1gb pc 3200 dimms, and they will just function at 333. This may be the way to go as prices don't change much between ddr speeds. However, that being said. Your kind of bordering onthe cusp of antiquity.

Figure if you get a new Video card, it's AGP. This means, in a very short time, new motherboards that support that card are fewer and fewer, you will not be able to transit that card to a newer Mobo, cpu, etc. As well DDR is starting to finally fade. Not gone, gone. But definitely on it's way out.

Seeing as how technology wise, you'll be dropping a decent amount of money on a new video card, and ram for this older board. You won't however be able to pick up a new cpu for it w/o searching high and low.

So you'll have dumped a bunch of cash into an aging platform, that doesn't support dual channel (Crucial to p4, not so crucial to Athlon).

Perhaps you may want to look at your budget and see what is out there in a new mainboard that supports PCI-E, Dual channel DDR, or DDR 2 (DDR is going to be around longer then High end AGP, 478 chips, etc).

This would atleast ensure that you aren't dumping money into something you'll really want to upgrade by the end of the year. Better to have parts you can carry forward, non?

However, budget dictates it all. Just something to think about.
i agree strongly with this seeing as i used to have a pre-built with only 256mb and it took pc133 and i went to best buy..they were 125$ for another 256??!! i dont think so..so i just save up bought new parts and built my own new computer and i found newer parts to be wayy cheaper than i expected and im on my way to having a great gaming computer you can too!!
    
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i bought 2 1 gb ddr400's .. im going to drop em in tomorrow see if they run.. and think about getting a new motherboard.. if its not necessary.. im gna save up.. say screw it to the old system and look into a Pentium d wit a new mobo and be able to run my 2 gig at ddr 400
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