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Whatchu doin in my Intel forums? lol..yeah roxters a good computer buddy of mine. My fan is ~70CFM, and it cools awesome. Its an amazing cooler, and most likely you will need a couple upgrades before hitting up the TT BT
I have a lian li, regular sized case, and it fits. It's not a big case or anything. I know some cases it won't fit in, but many it will. You should check first before you go for the typhoon, but if it will fit, it's awesome.
    
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would it be fine if I bought a Refurbished OEM version of the Typhoon for $37
instead of $51.99

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would it be fine if I bought a Refurbished OEM version of the Typhoon for $37
instead of $51.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&Go.x=0&Go.y=0

I've never bought anything refurbed from newegg, but I know alot of people do buy refurb stuff like mobo's from them with good luck. Newegg is a good reputable company, I'm sure that would be fine to get a used one. If anything were missing or wrong with it, which I doubt, I'm sure they would return it for you with little hassle. I'd still spend $10 more to get a new one, but that's just personal preference, I like to have new stuff.
    
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It’s been a while but anyways I bought a 775 Mount and installed the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu and used AS5 for my thermal compound (a friends left over tube). Anyways I first checked the temps and they didn’t seem to change (from my stock HSF @ 50 idle) so I gave it some time. I had not used the computer much because of finals until now.
So anyways I boot up the comp tonight and I’m seeing 54C idle on SpeedFan a little high and the Zalman is actually pretty noisy (I understand they are quiet?). So to suppress the noise I closed the side of my case which has an 80mm outtake. Now that time I actually saw 78C, so I quickly turned off my computer and upon next boot I used a extra fan with my case open and things got back to around 45.
I am now seeing 42C idle (with my case open, but no extra fan) but as soon as I boot up a game it sky rockets to 59C, have not really gamed more than 10 minutes - afraid the temps would go up even higher.

Any ideas or recommendations on the situation, like I have in my original post I do plan on overclocking so I want to get all these heat issues settled before I start?
I also don’t want to have to reseat the Zalman only as a last resort because
A) No more AS5, just basic thermal grease
B) Requires taking out the entire motherboard and computer apart.


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It’s been a while but anyways I bought a 775 Mount and installed the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu and used AS5 for my thermal compound (a friends left over tube). Anyways I first checked the temps and they didn’t seem to change (from my stock HSF @ 50 idle) so I gave it some time. I had not used the computer much because of finals until now.
So anyways I boot up the comp tonight and I’m seeing 54C idle on SpeedFan a little high and the Zalman is actually pretty noisy (I understand they are quiet?). So to suppress the noise I closed the side of my case which has an 80mm outtake. Now that time I actually saw 78C, so I quickly turned off my computer and upon next boot I used a extra fan with my case open and things got back to around 45.
I am now seeing 42C idle (with my case open, but no extra fan) but as soon as I boot up a game it sky rockets to 59C, have not really gamed more than 10 minutes - afraid the temps would go up even higher.

Any ideas or recommendations on the situation, like I have in my original post I do plan on overclocking so I want to get all these heat issues settled before I start?
I also don’t want to have to reseat the Zalman only as a last resort because
A) No more AS5, just basic thermal grease
B) Requires taking out the entire motherboard and computer apart.


thanks again
First of all, one thing dude is that the zalman 7000 is not all that good. When I was comparing those heatsinks, I was comparing the zalman 7700, which is quite a bit bigger than the 7000 and alot better. The xp90c and the big typhoon both beat the 7700, and it's alot bigger and better already than that 7000 you've got. I used to have that zalman 7000, and to be quite honest I was dissappointed with it really. It's way below par when compared to those other heatsinks. The order is 7000 (not so great, but better than stock)--->7700 (pretty dam good) --->xp90c (holy crap now this is a cooler!) --->big typhoon (wow just when I thought the xp90c was good, this is king ).


Have you seen a 7700, or one of those others compared to that 7000? It's kinda small compared to them, and just a mediocre cooler IMO. If you want anything better than a mediocre oc, you need a better heatsink. That 7000 is not beefy enough to tame a prescott IMO. It may do ok idle, but a pressy under load, and that hs you have just isn't big enough to give good temps. And with your prescott, you can run it with load temps about 60c, some people do and even a bit higher. I just personally wouldn't let it get higher than 60c max for myself.
    
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post #16 of 20
I agree...
1.TT BT
2.xp-90
3.7700cu
Although there is still the xp120 to consider im sure the added size of a 120mm fan would lower temps a fair amount.
however If your not on a tight buget I would go with an upgrade to watercooling..providing you have the room in your case and the money to pay for it. No air cooler can stand up to a good watercooling system and it may be worth saving up for a month or so and going straight to watercooling insted of spending $40 now and then a month or 2 later deciding that high temps limit your oc and you want watercooling... another $150+
If your a buget minded guy like myself and want the most for your money then imo just save a month for the w/c
just my
EDIT: Zalmans arent any quieter then any other cooler. For now your temps are fine(should be better but arent going to cause any damage) however I think the problem could be the amount of AS5 you applied (how much did you use?). I would say try and keep the temps under 65C which for now mean no ocing.. Post a screenshot of speedfan so we can make sure your reading the right temp.
how many case fans do you have make sure intake is from lower front and exhaust fan is back middle/top
IM affraid you might have to remove the mobo and reseat the HS/F
You can also try lapping your CPU and the HS/F this should lower temps by about 5-7C if done properly
nice guide for lapping found HERE
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Okay thanks for the help
So anyways I was thinking of getting a big typhoon, but I saw it at the store the other day and it was huge, I’m not even sure it would fit in my case so it threw me off a bit, don’t know about the xp-90 or 120 (they do seem to have some decent price on them too).
Also the idea of perhaps getting water-cooling is getting more and more appealing, though I’m not sure if it would fit and I would only be willing to spend about ~$160 if I did. Plus just the thought of having water in my case that could possibly leak and ruin my investment.

Here at the screenshots of the SpeedFan, and I thought I would throw in one of cpuz and one of the insides.


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Okay thanks for the help
So anyways I was thinking of getting a big typhoon, but I saw it at the store the other day and it was huge, I’m not even sure it would fit in my case so it threw me off a bit, don’t know about the xp-90 or 120 (they do seem to have some decent price on them too).
Also the idea of perhaps getting water-cooling is getting more and more appealing, though I’m not sure if it would fit and I would only be willing to spend about ~$160 if I did. Plus just the thought of having water in my case that could possibly leak and ruin my investment.

Here at the screenshots of the SpeedFan, and I thought I would throw in one of cpuz and one of the insides.


thanks again
Ya the typhoon is known to not fit in some cases, though I think the majority it will. I have put it in my Lian Li case, and in a coolermaster case, and it fits in both with some clearance to spare. I should also mention that on both of these cases I've made a 120mm hole and put a fan on the side. And so even with that 120mm fan mounted inside (at a place where part of it would collide with the fan on the big typhoon, if the clearance wasn't enough, it still fits. With some room to spare still. Neither of these cases are anything big either, just standard regular size midtowers. In most cases, unless their small, I think it would fit.

The 7700 also has problems fitting in some cases I heard, due to width issues, worked in both mine though, although a close fit. But the xp90c, I think that would fit in most cases around, it has a little height to it, but for width it doesn't even stick out farther than my mobo. I would deffinitely chose an xp90c over a 7700 too if I were you, it's better. Still though if you have a normal size case, you should check the size, and you should go for the typhoon. It's about the best you can get on air. It's better than the xp120 as well from what I've read.
    
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The xp-90 looks like a good deal right now, but more and more the liquid cooling is looking interesting especially since ive heard that my chip can be pushed to 4.5 on water. How much would a decent liquid cooling set up clost me? or should I ask that in the Liquid cooling section?

xp-90 or liquid cooling hmmm.
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I say forget the XP-90 or the BT (if you think it won't fit), get the XP-120 or the Si-120

XP-120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835109118
Si-120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835109123

I think you should try getting the bigtyphoon really, because its better than both of the above and it costs less:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106061
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