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post #2651 of 11073
After thinking about it i had this problem before when i setup folding in last year for the first time but i can't recall the issue, if i recall when i used to fold before i changed to bigadv i was getting 20k+ a day in points and now it's 13k average.
post #2652 of 11073
13k is very low for an i7 with HT @ 4.7ghz (you do have HT on right?)

In comparison my Phenom II doing v6 SMP units on 5 cores does 16k PPD. I have 3 cores at 4.1ghz and 2 others at 3.4ghz because they are unstable at anything higher. My RAM is 1866, stock timings, and my CPUNB is 2800mhz (unstable at 3ghz)..

Your i7's memory architecture (QPI), hyperthreading, and very high overclock should pull way more than 13k.

What client are you using? v7 or v6? Virtual machine (Linux) or Windows native?

The only other thing I can think of, not sure how true it is, is that I've read that past a certain overclock point on AMD *or* Intel your PPD can actually go down because the chips simply aren't designed to be clocked so high. It affects them detrimentally. I think heat can be a factor in this as well as memory stability. I saw this on the folding@home forums a while back pertaining to Intel.. maybe you should look into setting stock RAM speed and timing, and lowering your OC a bit and see if it makes a difference...otherwise it might be the client.

Sorry I can't be more help.
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It's the v7 client. can't be the oc or the ram, i got higher ppd with the same setup last year until the bsods started but we corrected that with higher vcore.

Could be the client but idk what to do about that, it's the windows native client, i don't feel like dealing with linux or a VM.

HT is turned on.
Edited by Tunapiano - 3/4/12 at 4:40pm
post #2654 of 11073
The fact that it's the Windows v7 client may be the issue. For me it's flaky, and also the v7 client has serious issues/bugs with reporting PPD. For example, I run my GPU core_16 units under the Windows v7 client, and if I pause or quit folding and restart it it reports my PPD wrong (Like, it'll say I have 180k ppd and 2 secs TPF- I wish). After it finishes a work unit it will go back to normal.

In all likelihood you are probably making way more PPD than it's reporting. If anyone else can pipe up and confirm this I'd appreciate the back up, though it's a pretty widely known issue.

I highly suggest you switch to v6 folding in a Linux VM in Virtualbox (free). I gained 3k PPD or so by switching to this setup for my CPU folding. The VM can be monitored through HFM.NET, as well as controlled through a webpage on your LAN.

Download link here

Setup guide here, go down to "Virtualbox installation".

It's very easy to setup and figure out and worth it as you'll probably gain PPD, it supports bigadv, and HFM.NET's PPD reporting is accurate and not broken.

If you get stuck or need any help setting it up let me know.
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post #2655 of 11073
Yea 13k is WAY to low on your i7 @4.7. I get a routine 31k (v6 console client) with somewhat minimal usage as an htpc on mine. You must be gaming a lot or what is more likely something not setup right. According to EOC you are only getting roughly 15k ppd.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=549442

Like neuro said, v7 client is kind of finicky and I don't think you can get bigadv in v7....hence why you haven't gotten one. And even if you were able to you can't really use your computer much at all and still complete it in time...


I'll be switching to said VM and hope for a bigadv or 2 while tuna gets the kinks worked out.
 
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Yeah that VM gave me a slight PPD boost and the guy who made it did a great job with the web interface, I love it.
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I'm running the VMware now and folding in it and my ppd is around 34-35k now so the issue seems to be fixed.
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Excellent, glad you got it sorted out.
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I'm running the VMware now and folding in it and my ppd is around 34-35k now so the issue seems to be fixed.

thought i saw a big jump in points from you thumb.gif
 
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Hey repo_man I got some IC7 and 2 Scythe Ultra Kazes for my heatsink and lowered temps by about 5C. IC7 seems to work pretty well. wink.gif
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i5-7600k 4.7ghz 1.26v ASUS ROG Z270H Strix Sapphire R9 380X Nitro 1200/1500mhz G.skill Ripjaws4 DDR4-3000 CAS15 
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Western Digital Caviar Blue 320gb Samsung 850 Evo 256gb Corsair H60 Win10 Home 
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2x ASUS V236H 1080p Corsair K70 Lux Blue LED Cherry MX Blue OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w Thermaltake Core V71 
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Cooler Master Thermaltake GAMMA 
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FX-8350 stock ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula Sapphire R5 230 G.skill TridentX DDR3 2400mhz 
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WD Caviar Blue Lite On DVD-RW Cooler Master TX3 Corsair SP120 Exhaust 
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Win7 Ultimate X64 ASUS V236H 1080p 23" OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Corsair C70 
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i7 4790k delid 5ghz ASUS ROG Maximus VI Hero BIOS 1603 SAPPHIRE R9 Fury NITRO 1125/550mhz SAPPHIRE R9 Fury NITRO 1125/550mhz 
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8GB G.SKILL TridentX 2666mhz 10-12-12-31 2T 1.7v Samsung 840 Evo 256GB SATA 3 2TB WD Black 7200rpm SATA 3 (Games) 4TB WD Blue 5400rpm SATA 3 (Media) 
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Lite-on 20x DVD-RW/BD-ROM Corsair H100i V2 + PK-3 Nano Corsair SP120s red LED (radiator) Corsair SP140 red LED 
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 3x ASUS VC239H IPS Slim Bezel Eyefinity Ducky DK-1008 "Overclock.net Edition" w/ dampen... Cooler Master V1000 
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Corsair 780T (Black- painted red fan grills) ZELOTES T-90 Corsair Polaris Creative SupremeFX onboard 
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Logitech + Turtle Beach amp Custom acrylic PSU cover "Big Red" (v1tech) Custom acrylic drive cage cover "Sapphire Nitro... Merax Racing Chair 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-7600k 4.7ghz 1.26v ASUS ROG Z270H Strix Sapphire R9 380X Nitro 1200/1500mhz G.skill Ripjaws4 DDR4-3000 CAS15 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital Caviar Blue 320gb Samsung 850 Evo 256gb Corsair H60 Win10 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
2x ASUS V236H 1080p Corsair K70 Lux Blue LED Cherry MX Blue OCZ ModXStream Pro 500w Thermaltake Core V71 
MouseMouse Pad
Cooler Master Thermaltake GAMMA 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 stock ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula Sapphire R5 230 G.skill TridentX DDR3 2400mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD Caviar Blue Lite On DVD-RW Cooler Master TX3 Corsair SP120 Exhaust 
OSMonitorPowerCase
Win7 Ultimate X64 ASUS V236H 1080p 23" OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W Corsair C70 
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